Do you think this year´s TGS will finally show us the "big,true" Japanese..

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CrazzyMan said:

@TalonMan, wait, WHAT??? Are you mod-fanboy? Or you stay in DENIAL?

We speak about 3rd party Japan developers.

sc94597 said:

Diomedes1976 said:
Nintendo doesnt attend TGS usually ,so I woulndt expect too many announcements there.Besides ,most hardcore Wii games have flopped badly so I doubt the developers are eager to put too much effort behind it.As it is cheap to develop for it will get some games ,specially given the casual market there is right now.And some spin offs of major franchises.

Tell me some hardcore games on the ps3/360 that sold well in Japan that aren't MGS4. ALso tell me some hardcore games that flopped in japan on the wii from third parties.

3rd party games:

http://vgchartz.com/japtotals.php?name=&console=Wii&maker=&disp=Japanese+Name&boxartz=1
1) Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou Square Enix 502,193
2) Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles Capcom 267,539
3) Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Namco Bandai 244,432

1) Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Koei 410,624
2) World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 Konami 318,514
3) Devil May Cry 4 Capcom 307,028
4) Gundam Musou Koei 298,005
5) Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! Sega 273,341

Notice:
Wii - 6,36 mln.
PS3 - 2,25 mln.

You consider the Dynasty warriors series and Devil May Cry as hardcore?

Or Winning Eleven? 1-4 on the list aren't hardcore Crazzy.

Neither is Dragon Ball Z for that matter.