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NJ5 said:
Slimebeast said:
What, am I reading it right? The Nvidia stock dropped by 30.73% in one day?

Yes. I bet someone who worked on the original Xbox is laughing maniacally right now.

 

 

 Well, I'm almost laughing too since I'm an ATI guy. Although the CEO of Nvidia was funny with his "Laughabee" joke.

NJ5, can you elaborate.. what was the story with Xbox 1 and Nvidia?



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Slimebeast said:
NJ5 said:
Slimebeast said:
What, am I reading it right? The Nvidia stock dropped by 30.73% in one day?

Yes. I bet someone who worked on the original Xbox is laughing maniacally right now.

 

 

 Well, I'm almost laughing too since I'm an ATI guy. Although the CEO of Nvidia was funny with his "Laughabee" joke.

NJ5, can you elaborate.. what was the story with Xbox 1 and Nvidia?

The reason the Xbox was discontinued was Nvidia. They owned the GPU design and didn't want to produce it anymore. No GPU, no console.

I don't know the details of the case though. Maybe Microsoft had part of the fault, but even if that's the case that doesn't change my point ;)

 



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NJ5 said:
Slimebeast said:
NJ5 said:
Slimebeast said:
What, am I reading it right? The Nvidia stock dropped by 30.73% in one day?

Yes. I bet someone who worked on the original Xbox is laughing maniacally right now.

 

 

 Well, I'm almost laughing too since I'm an ATI guy. Although the CEO of Nvidia was funny with his "Laughabee" joke.

NJ5, can you elaborate.. what was the story with Xbox 1 and Nvidia?

The reason the Xbox was discontinued was Nvidia. They owned the GPU design and didn't want to produce it anymore. No GPU, no console.

 

Wow, what assholes lol. No wonder MS chose ATI this time around.

 



The deal with MS and Nvidia was IIRC that Nvidia wanted more to continue to make the product and MS basically said meh. I can see MS staying with ATI for a very long time indeed. Nvidia kind of messed up on that deal for the very long term imho. I really can't believe it took a 30% dive in one day though that is big time.



Hmmm... if I buy an ATi card I'm not helping them, right? Haha.



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ion-storm said:
disolitude said:

Serves them right for screwing sega (convincing the company to go with the quad polygons instead of triangle ones) and then screwing microsoft with pricing. :)

I assuming you're talking about the saturn for quads. But I've never heard of nvidia having anything to do with the Saturn...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA

The "Before Direct X" section -

"Nvidia released its first graphics card, the NV1, in 1995. Its design used quadratic surfaces, with an integrated playback-only sound-card and ports for Sega Saturn gamepads. Because the Saturn also used forward-rendered quadratics, programmers ported several Saturn games to play on a PC with NV1, such as Panzer Dragoon and Virtua Fighter Remix. However, the NV1 struggled in a market-place full of several competing proprietary standards.

Market interest in the product ended when Microsoft announced the DirectX specifications, based upon polygons. Subsequently NV1 development continued internally as the NV2 project, funded by several millions of dollars of investment from Sega. Sega hoped that an integrated sound-and-graphics chip would cut the manufacturing cost of their next console. However, Sega eventually realized the flaws in implementing quadratic surfaces, and the NV2 was never fully developed."

 



Slimebeast said:

Wow, what assholes lol. No wonder MS chose ATI this time around.

 

Not only that, but this time Microsoft owns the design of the whole console, GPU included. Even if ATI does the same as Nvidia did, Microsoft will still be able to manufacture the GPU, so they won't have to discontinue the 360. They learned from their mistake.

In the long run, things turned out well for MS though... Choosing ATI meant they ended up with a better 360 GPU than Nvidia could have designed at that time (with this GPU, ATI pioneered the unified shaders paradigm which Nvidia now uses too). Killing the Xbox had its problems, but it had its benefits to the 360 too.

 



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NJ5 said:
Slimebeast said:

Wow, what assholes lol. No wonder MS chose ATI this time around.

 

Not only that, but this time Microsoft owns the design of the whole console, GPU included. Even if ATI does the same as Nvidia did, Microsoft will still be able to manufacture the GPU, so they won't have to discontinue the 360. They learned from their mistake.

In the long run, things turned out well for MS though... Choosing ATI meant they ended up with a better 360 GPU than Nvidia could have designed at that time (with this GPU, ATI pioneered the unified shaders paradigm which Nvidia now uses too).

 

Yes, you are right, but it was also the ATI GPU that made the X360 a hot and loud machine lol (much like "R600"/HD 2900XT).

 



poor nvidia



So there are legitamate reasons to hate Nvida? Kickass. I've always hated them for no good reason. I'm totally going to steal these reasons.