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mike_intellivision on 02 July 2008
Rath said:
MontanaHatchet said:
I was going to write a huge essay but I needed to get this into the thread first: Atari had two generations of relative dominance and then a huge fall too, don't forget them.

Nah they only had the second generation, first generation didn't include them and the third generation was dominated by the NES. Though they did fuck it up in a way bigger than any of the current console makers could achieve, even bigger than SEGA did.

 

Don't believe everything in Wikipedia.

First of all, Pong was Atari in the first generation. As was Atari Video Pinball and some other units.

Second of all, what is listed as the second generation included two very distinct generations: the early early 8 bit games and the later early 8 bit games. Basically, the Atari 2600 competed against the early early machines as well as the Mattel Intellivision and Magnovox Odyseey 2. The first two (2600 and Intellivision) were still players when the later early machines -- the Colecovision (by Coleco) and the Atari 5200 were released. Interestingly, all four could play Atari 2600 games -- the latter three by add-on hardware. (Coleco also had an Atari 2600 clone called the Gemini).

Atari had a third-generation machine -- the Atari 7800 -- that would have been competitive had not been pulled from its original release 1984 release. (It was re-released in 1986).

 

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brute on 02 July 2008
akuma587 said:
Nintendo. The N64 never really made a comeback while the PS3 has already sort of made one. It really boiled down to their decision to go with cartridges, which just ruined their chances of getting many multi-plat games.

 

 i think they used cartridges to get all the exclusives but didnt



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Pretendo on 02 July 2008
akuma587 said:
Nintendo. The N64 never really made a comeback while the PS3 has already sort of made one. It really boiled down to their decision to go with cartridges, which just ruined their chances of getting many multi-plat games.

 

 Yeah. They cost more to make so some games cost $60.



brute on 02 July 2008

^its funny how they cost more to make,when they were less megabytes



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MontanaHatchet on 02 July 2008
brute said:
MontanaHatchet said:
I was going to write a huge essay but I needed to get this into the thread first: Atari had two generations of relative dominance and then a huge fall too, don't forget them.

 

 really?i thought they only won one gen

They didn't really "win" the first generation, but they definitely dominated it. And besides, Sony and Nintendo didn't fail nearly as badly as Atari did. Atari greatly contributed to the destruction of the industry with their failures, whereas the failures of Nintendo and Sony made the industry grow quite a bit.



 

 

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brute on 02 July 2008

^one thing though that im not so sure of,did atari release there consoles in japan?



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brute on 02 July 2008

^do you think they will be ontop even after miyamoto leaves?



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DMeisterJ on 02 July 2008

But this trend happens with every gaming console. Two good systems, then one bad one. But the Wii has came back after a bad one, so does that meant the PS4 will come back? Who knows. But the pattern is certainly something to behold.



brute on 02 July 2008
DMeisterJ said:
But this trend happens with every gaming console. Two good systems, then one bad one. But the Wii has came back after a bad one, so does that meant the PS4 will come back? Who knows. But the pattern is certainly something to behold.

 

 actually if the trend continues PS4 will do worse then PS3,then PS5 will dominate



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MontanaHatchet on 02 July 2008
brute said:
^one thing though that im not so sure of,did atari release there consoles in japan?

I'm pretty sure Atari did.

If memory serves (I haven't double checked this, so I don't know), Nintendo convinced the Japanese government to placed tariffs on Atari products in Japan, thus meaning that Nintendo's products would be much cheaper and they could take over the industry there. After that, Nintendo could take over the rest of the world without raising a pinky.

Then again I could be wrong on all of that so look it up if you want clarification.