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Forums - Sales - Famitsu Sales 6/23 - 6/29 ( TOS: Dawn of the New World 151k )

johnsobas on 02 July 2008
kingofwale said:
johnsobas said:
The sales are dissapointing, I don't think it will have good legs. For the record though, 19k across all of Japan is supply constrained. Judging by the 120k first day sales though, the demand obviously wasn't a whole lot higher than what it sold EVEN IF it was supply constrained.

under the assumption of more than 10% left is considered "supply constrained"

under the assumption that somehow second shipment never got there.

 

yes, I suppose one could jump to defend poor sales of 2nd/3rd day of game of their console without much reasoning behind it.

 

 

Regardless, not too bad number all around.

 

 

What is wrong with you?  Do you even read my posts?  I said from the very first post to the last that the sales are dissapointing, and that it will not have good legs.  My original post was deleted, but i specifically posted that the 2nd and 3rd day sales were dissapointing.  How is that defending it?  Please explain that before you actually continue writing.  You want me to continue?  I think the sales are below average, I think that the developers expecting higher sales, I don't think that it helps Japan's image in Japan. 

I am saying if we going under the first 2 assumptions that it's a possibility, at the same time i'm telling you we really don't know whether the second shipment came in time.



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FishyJoe on 02 July 2008

Yeah, MC and Famitsu have been fairly different in their software results lately. Even their hardware numbers have been divergent.



kingofwale on 02 July 2008
johnsobas said:
kingofwale said:
johnsobas said:
The sales are dissapointing, I don't think it will have good legs. For the record though, 19k across all of Japan is supply constrained. Judging by the 120k first day sales though, the demand obviously wasn't a whole lot higher than what it sold EVEN IF it was supply constrained.

under the assumption of more than 10% left is considered "supply constrained"

under the assumption that somehow second shipment never got there.

 

yes, I suppose one could jump to defend poor sales of 2nd/3rd day of game of their console without much reasoning behind it.

 

 

Regardless, not too bad number all around.

 

 

What is wrong with you? Do you even read my posts? I said from the very first post to the last that the sales are dissapointing, and that it will not have good legs. My original post was deleted, but i specifically posted that the 2nd and 3rd day sales were dissapointing. How is that defending it? Please explain that before you actually continue writing. You want me to continue? I think the sales are below average, I think that the developers expecting higher sales, I don't think that it helps Japan's image in Japan.

I am saying if we going under the first 2 assumptions that it's a possibility, at the same time i'm telling you we really don't know whether the second shipment came in time.

why would I even care if you think the sales is disappointment?

What bugs me is that you CONTINUE to go about your absolutely baseless assumptions and refuse to accept what was right in front of you... which is, no shortage, no sign of delay.

 

Go right ahead and twist the numbers by claiming shortage/supply restrain. Go ahead, unless you can actually show an ounce of proof to anything you claimed, it's the official number we go by here.

 



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swyggi on 02 July 2008

Didn't Tales get 150k worth of preorders?



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FishyJoe on 02 July 2008

If you guys want to argue, use PMs because nobody wants to hear it.



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johnsobas on 02 July 2008

the numbers are there. 151k sales and 170k shipment. Obviously famitsu doesn't have every retailer but that's as close to fact as you're gonna get. Now if it second shipment didn't arrive before the end of the week there is only 19k copies in all of Japan. In my mind that is supply constrained.
The only assumption would be that the second shipment didn't come before sunday. Maybe you haven't been watching Japan sales that closely but it isn't that uncommon of an occurance.

How is that a baseless assumption? How is that not using the numbers righ in front of me?



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Dolla Dolla on 02 July 2008

I thought y-koron posted that they only shipped 170k first week in a news item?

Nearly 90% sell through is good, no?



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kingofwale on 02 July 2008
johnsobas said:
the numbers are there. 151k sales and 170k shipment. Obviously famitsu doesn't have every retailer but that's as close to fact as you're gonna get. Now if it second shipment didn't arrive before the end of the week there is only 19k copies in all of Japan. In my mind that is supply constrained.
The only assumption would be that the second shipment didn't come before sunday. Maybe you haven't been watching Japan sales that closely but it isn't that uncommon of an occurance.

How is that a baseless assumption? How is that not using the numbers righ in front of me?

 

how is 19K sitting on the shelf "supply constrained"??


How is baseless assumption of "second shipment didn't come" a part of "using the numbers in front of us"?????



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
tombi123 on 02 July 2008
trestres said:
I don't know about this, if the first shipment sold out and sales were 120k first day, I think they might be lowballing this. Still I'll wait for VGC and MC numbers, they are always different.

PS3 keeps on dropping :S

 

Yeah that is strange actually. I was expecting the PS3 to sustain 80K from now on.



TWRoO on 02 July 2008

Wow, so Wii actually could break 500k (again, as it did over 600k for GTA week)

I didn't think 'twould be possible as Wii is usually 45k ish