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OMG the KH Series is starting to make no sense to me now that i've put effort into thinking about it...theres some major gap holes within its plot Nuuuu!

Oh and my personal guess... KH3 = PSP Exclusive OR A Blu-Ray Exclusive Movie No KH3 game AT ALL! Disney and Square Make A movie ending the KH Series.... Wow that would be a twist no? :D



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@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?



Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?

 

You should read this:

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/110788-everything-we-know-about-unbirths-so-far.html

I have a (crappy) theory

Terra says he doesn't want to be "master" (whatever "master" is) and will only use his power (not sure if he means it in general or he actually has some sort of special power) for his friends to Xehanort. I'm assuming he'll be over to take over something but I'm not sure what obviously. I'm assuming he has some special power and it's some sort of power of darkness. In one of the screens he's talking to Malificient and laughs suspicously. I'm assuming he's being corrupted somehow. Probably by Xehanort. Anyway, in one of the screens Ven asks Terra to erase (ie. kill) him. Something tells me he's going to go corrupt by what might happen to Ven (Terra says Xehanort did something to Ven's heart) or he might just be consumed by the "Unbirths" or whatever (kinda how Riku was consumed by darkness, and in turn the Heartless...sorta) and just goes crazy. Probably explains why Ven nor Aqua weren't in KH1/KH2 (though Aqua might be in 358/2 Days). They probably got...killed. Also, you know the Dark Soldier wearing theh helmet and such in the secret ending of KH2: FM+? Something tells me that's Terra. I mean the body fits and like I said, Terra is probably consumed by darkness and tries to kill (he was attacking him, so...) Ven. Though what's weird though is the Dark Soldier was being fought by Terra and co. in the secret ending.

Though I'm probably wrong :P Speculation on KH games just...doesn't work.

Also, at SE's event on August 2-3 a new 358/2 Days trailer was shown and apparently the 14th member (Xion) has dark blue hair...like Aqua. I'm starting to think more and more Aqua is the 14th member and somehow managed to escape BBS's events somehow.

Did you write that soriku?Anyway it's really hard to predict what is going to happen in kingdom hears :/.I hope 365/2 reveals some stuff that will make it easier to see what's next on kh3.By the way what's this thing that riku was a heartless?He never turn into a heartless it was just that ansem was on riku's heart.I don't really understand that part since I can't remenber kh1 quite well.But in the ending of com riku beat ansem an keep his darkness but later on in 358/2 he uses it to beat roxas since there was not other way to win.Can you please explain what's going on with riku and why on kh2 did he change his phisycal apperance(he looked like ansem)while on com he used his darkness and he didn't change the way he look?

 



Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?

 

You should read this:

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/110788-everything-we-know-about-unbirths-so-far.html

I have a (crappy) theory

Terra says he doesn't want to be "master" (whatever "master" is) and will only use his power (not sure if he means it in general or he actually has some sort of special power) for his friends to Xehanort. I'm assuming he'll be over to take over something but I'm not sure what obviously. I'm assuming he has some special power and it's some sort of power of darkness. In one of the screens he's talking to Malificient and laughs suspicously. I'm assuming he's being corrupted somehow. Probably by Xehanort. Anyway, in one of the screens Ven asks Terra to erase (ie. kill) him. Something tells me he's going to go corrupt by what might happen to Ven (Terra says Xehanort did something to Ven's heart) or he might just be consumed by the "Unbirths" or whatever (kinda how Riku was consumed by darkness, and in turn the Heartless...sorta) and just goes crazy. Probably explains why Ven nor Aqua weren't in KH1/KH2 (though Aqua might be in 358/2 Days). They probably got...killed. Also, you know the Dark Soldier wearing theh helmet and such in the secret ending of KH2: FM+? Something tells me that's Terra. I mean the body fits and like I said, Terra is probably consumed by darkness and tries to kill (he was attacking him, so...) Ven. Though what's weird though is the Dark Soldier was being fought by Terra and co. in the secret ending.

Though I'm probably wrong :P Speculation on KH games just...doesn't work.

Also, at SE's event on August 2-3 a new 358/2 Days trailer was shown and apparently the 14th member (Xion) has dark blue hair...like Aqua. I'm starting to think more and more Aqua is the 14th member and somehow managed to escape BBS's events somehow.

Did you write that soriku?Anyway it's really hard to predict what is going to happen in kingdom hears :/.I hope 365/2 reveals some stuff that will make it easier to see what's next on kh3.By the way what's this thing that riku was a heartless?He never turn into a heartless it was just that ansem was on riku's heart.I don't really understand that part since I can't remenber kh1 quite well.But in the ending of com riku beat ansem an keep his darkness but later on in 358/2 he uses it to beat roxas since there was not other way to win.Can you please explain what's going on with riku and why on kh2 did he change his phisycal apperance(he looked like ansem)while on com he used his darkness and he didn't change the way he look?

 

 

I didn't write it, no :P

Also, Riku wasn't a heartless, he was just consumed by darkness :/

CoM happened right after KH1 so Riku would look the same...except the Riku in CoM wasn't Riku. It was just a Riku replica Vexen made.

As for his KH2 appearance when he was fighting Roxas and turned into Ansem...IDK. They never explained that =/

they did, he accepted darkness to beat roxas to bring him to diz, it had a side effect, ansem looks.

without it he would not have been able to beat roxas.

also he wear a bandana covering his eyes to be unbiased when he fought roxas, there wss another reason related to the darkness but i don¡t remenber exactly what was it.

 

 



Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?

 

You should read this:

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/110788-everything-we-know-about-unbirths-so-far.html

I have a (crappy) theory

Terra says he doesn't want to be "master" (whatever "master" is) and will only use his power (not sure if he means it in general or he actually has some sort of special power) for his friends to Xehanort. I'm assuming he'll be over to take over something but I'm not sure what obviously. I'm assuming he has some special power and it's some sort of power of darkness. In one of the screens he's talking to Malificient and laughs suspicously. I'm assuming he's being corrupted somehow. Probably by Xehanort. Anyway, in one of the screens Ven asks Terra to erase (ie. kill) him. Something tells me he's going to go corrupt by what might happen to Ven (Terra says Xehanort did something to Ven's heart) or he might just be consumed by the "Unbirths" or whatever (kinda how Riku was consumed by darkness, and in turn the Heartless...sorta) and just goes crazy. Probably explains why Ven nor Aqua weren't in KH1/KH2 (though Aqua might be in 358/2 Days). They probably got...killed. Also, you know the Dark Soldier wearing theh helmet and such in the secret ending of KH2: FM+? Something tells me that's Terra. I mean the body fits and like I said, Terra is probably consumed by darkness and tries to kill (he was attacking him, so...) Ven. Though what's weird though is the Dark Soldier was being fought by Terra and co. in the secret ending.

Though I'm probably wrong :P Speculation on KH games just...doesn't work.

Also, at SE's event on August 2-3 a new 358/2 Days trailer was shown and apparently the 14th member (Xion) has dark blue hair...like Aqua. I'm starting to think more and more Aqua is the 14th member and somehow managed to escape BBS's events somehow.

Did you write that soriku?Anyway it's really hard to predict what is going to happen in kingdom hears :/.I hope 365/2 reveals some stuff that will make it easier to see what's next on kh3.By the way what's this thing that riku was a heartless?He never turn into a heartless it was just that ansem was on riku's heart.I don't really understand that part since I can't remenber kh1 quite well.But in the ending of com riku beat ansem an keep his darkness but later on in 358/2 he uses it to beat roxas since there was not other way to win.Can you please explain what's going on with riku and why on kh2 did he change his phisycal apperance(he looked like ansem)while on com he used his darkness and he didn't change the way he look?

 

 

I didn't write it, no :P

Also, Riku wasn't a heartless, he was just consumed by darkness :/

CoM happened right after KH1 so Riku would look the same...except the Riku in CoM wasn't Riku. It was just a Riku replica Vexen made.

As for his KH2 appearance when he was fighting Roxas and turned into Ansem...IDK. They never explained that =/

LOL and you call yourselve a kh fanboy :p noob alert!lol.Kh:com has two stories the sora one and the riku one you probably only saw the sora one in which sora ends up in the last floor after beating the members of the organisation and after he defeat marluixia namine has to fix sora's old memories but she also erases his memories from castle oblivion.Meanwhile riku is on the basement since he escaped from the realm of darkness.After he defends some members of the organisation he destroys the riku replica and meets with Diz and namine she let's him choose if he wants her to seal his darkness but he refuses and decides to face ansem by himself.At the end riku defends ansem and with king mickey he chooses the path of dawn rejecting twilight,light and dark.Here check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wArWgXdz2o4

 



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Jo21 said:
Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?

 

You should read this:

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/110788-everything-we-know-about-unbirths-so-far.html

I have a (crappy) theory

Terra says he doesn't want to be "master" (whatever "master" is) and will only use his power (not sure if he means it in general or he actually has some sort of special power) for his friends to Xehanort. I'm assuming he'll be over to take over something but I'm not sure what obviously. I'm assuming he has some special power and it's some sort of power of darkness. In one of the screens he's talking to Malificient and laughs suspicously. I'm assuming he's being corrupted somehow. Probably by Xehanort. Anyway, in one of the screens Ven asks Terra to erase (ie. kill) him. Something tells me he's going to go corrupt by what might happen to Ven (Terra says Xehanort did something to Ven's heart) or he might just be consumed by the "Unbirths" or whatever (kinda how Riku was consumed by darkness, and in turn the Heartless...sorta) and just goes crazy. Probably explains why Ven nor Aqua weren't in KH1/KH2 (though Aqua might be in 358/2 Days). They probably got...killed. Also, you know the Dark Soldier wearing theh helmet and such in the secret ending of KH2: FM+? Something tells me that's Terra. I mean the body fits and like I said, Terra is probably consumed by darkness and tries to kill (he was attacking him, so...) Ven. Though what's weird though is the Dark Soldier was being fought by Terra and co. in the secret ending.

Though I'm probably wrong :P Speculation on KH games just...doesn't work.

Also, at SE's event on August 2-3 a new 358/2 Days trailer was shown and apparently the 14th member (Xion) has dark blue hair...like Aqua. I'm starting to think more and more Aqua is the 14th member and somehow managed to escape BBS's events somehow.

Did you write that soriku?Anyway it's really hard to predict what is going to happen in kingdom hears :/.I hope 365/2 reveals some stuff that will make it easier to see what's next on kh3.By the way what's this thing that riku was a heartless?He never turn into a heartless it was just that ansem was on riku's heart.I don't really understand that part since I can't remenber kh1 quite well.But in the ending of com riku beat ansem an keep his darkness but later on in 358/2 he uses it to beat roxas since there was not other way to win.Can you please explain what's going on with riku and why on kh2 did he change his phisycal apperance(he looked like ansem)while on com he used his darkness and he didn't change the way he look?

 

 

I didn't write it, no :P

Also, Riku wasn't a heartless, he was just consumed by darkness :/

CoM happened right after KH1 so Riku would look the same...except the Riku in CoM wasn't Riku. It was just a Riku replica Vexen made.

As for his KH2 appearance when he was fighting Roxas and turned into Ansem...IDK. They never explained that =/

they did, he accepted darkness to beat roxas to bring him to diz, it had a side effect, ansem looks.

without it he would not have been able to beat roxas.

also he wear a bandana covering his eyes to be unbiased when he fought roxas, there wss another reason related to the darkness but i don¡t remenber exactly what was it.

 

 

Yeah the clothe they were protects them from the darkness since they can't control it.

 



ClaudeLv250 said:

I don't think BBS is really going to lead into KH3 since all of its original characters are eliminated before KH1 even happens. It's kind of limited on what it can do in that respect once you realize there's the canon of KH1/2/CoM and even Coded and 358/2 to adhere to.

It's probably going to be like Crisis Core in that it tells a lot and elaborates on a point before the main game(s) but has a whole can't really impact too much of the furutre of FFVII outside of what it introduced.

And Fury, your comment about Roxas being a bad guy is kind of odd considering that Terra is undoubtedly Xehanort/Ansem, and both Ven and Aqua are dead/gone/nothing by the time KH1 roll around

 

u don't know that yet, they may be alive and be bad at kh3.

@soriku, not exactly, the darkness was always going to be part of him, but he didn't completely reject it, he was just favoring it.

but to gain power he had to wake it up.

he found a way inbetween, thats why it keyblade is called way to dawn, thats was explain in COM: reverse and rebirth.



can I say something?
I liked Riku's Soul Eater more than his ghey Keybalde..called 'Way to Dawn'

Soul Eater sounded so much cooler..and looked cooler..felt like a unique weapon..

now everyone seems to have a keyblade..the fun is fading


hmmm...I wish there were a better explanation for Riku though...



Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?

 

You should read this:

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/110788-everything-we-know-about-unbirths-so-far.html

I have a (crappy) theory

Terra says he doesn't want to be "master" (whatever "master" is) and will only use his power (not sure if he means it in general or he actually has some sort of special power) for his friends to Xehanort. I'm assuming he'll be over to take over something but I'm not sure what obviously. I'm assuming he has some special power and it's some sort of power of darkness. In one of the screens he's talking to Malificient and laughs suspicously. I'm assuming he's being corrupted somehow. Probably by Xehanort. Anyway, in one of the screens Ven asks Terra to erase (ie. kill) him. Something tells me he's going to go corrupt by what might happen to Ven (Terra says Xehanort did something to Ven's heart) or he might just be consumed by the "Unbirths" or whatever (kinda how Riku was consumed by darkness, and in turn the Heartless...sorta) and just goes crazy. Probably explains why Ven nor Aqua weren't in KH1/KH2 (though Aqua might be in 358/2 Days). They probably got...killed. Also, you know the Dark Soldier wearing theh helmet and such in the secret ending of KH2: FM+? Something tells me that's Terra. I mean the body fits and like I said, Terra is probably consumed by darkness and tries to kill (he was attacking him, so...) Ven. Though what's weird though is the Dark Soldier was being fought by Terra and co. in the secret ending.

Though I'm probably wrong :P Speculation on KH games just...doesn't work.

Also, at SE's event on August 2-3 a new 358/2 Days trailer was shown and apparently the 14th member (Xion) has dark blue hair...like Aqua. I'm starting to think more and more Aqua is the 14th member and somehow managed to escape BBS's events somehow.

That's a pretty good Theory. but how does Xion being Aqua make sense she wouldn't be let into Organization XIII unless she's a Nobody.

If we follow the normal pattern for Organization XIII's names, he name could be:

Ion

Ino

Nio

Noi

Oin

Oni

So unless Nomura's doing something weird to confuse us Xion can't be aqua or be Aqua's nobody.

 

 



Soriku said:
DeotoxSlayer said:
Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
@Soriku
Cool I think I saw that video a long time ago.

OT:Do you guys have any info about terra and his role on bbs?

 

You should read this:

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/110788-everything-we-know-about-unbirths-so-far.html

I have a (crappy) theory

Terra says he doesn't want to be "master" (whatever "master" is) and will only use his power (not sure if he means it in general or he actually has some sort of special power) for his friends to Xehanort. I'm assuming he'll be over to take over something but I'm not sure what obviously. I'm assuming he has some special power and it's some sort of power of darkness. In one of the screens he's talking to Malificient and laughs suspicously. I'm assuming he's being corrupted somehow. Probably by Xehanort. Anyway, in one of the screens Ven asks Terra to erase (ie. kill) him. Something tells me he's going to go corrupt by what might happen to Ven (Terra says Xehanort did something to Ven's heart) or he might just be consumed by the "Unbirths" or whatever (kinda how Riku was consumed by darkness, and in turn the Heartless...sorta) and just goes crazy. Probably explains why Ven nor Aqua weren't in KH1/KH2 (though Aqua might be in 358/2 Days). They probably got...killed. Also, you know the Dark Soldier wearing theh helmet and such in the secret ending of KH2: FM+? Something tells me that's Terra. I mean the body fits and like I said, Terra is probably consumed by darkness and tries to kill (he was attacking him, so...) Ven. Though what's weird though is the Dark Soldier was being fought by Terra and co. in the secret ending.

Though I'm probably wrong :P Speculation on KH games just...doesn't work.

Also, at SE's event on August 2-3 a new 358/2 Days trailer was shown and apparently the 14th member (Xion) has dark blue hair...like Aqua. I'm starting to think more and more Aqua is the 14th member and somehow managed to escape BBS's events somehow.

That's a pretty good Theory. but how does Xion being Aqua make sense she wouldn't be let into Organization XIII unless she's a Nobody.

If we follow the normal pattern for Organization XIII's names, he name could be:

Ion

Ino

Nio

Noi

Oin

Oni

So unless Nomura's doing something weird to confuse us Xion can't be aqua or be Aqua's nobody.

 

 

 

The point is...Xion is likely not a nobody. Why is everyone against her then? She's likely someone who infiltrated Org XIII and tried to do...whatever. I highly doubt she's a nobody.

BUT...if she IS a nobody...why can't her name be Xion? You know the nobody's name and the original person don't have to have similar names...right? Just look at Kairi and Naimine.

She's definitely either one of those IMO.

Edit: Also, if she really was an official Org XIII member, why are their names Org XIII still instead of XIV? I'm guessing Xemnas MAY have known before that she was an enemy...just that he wanted to let her stay so he can learn what she's doing, etc.

Nomura said that the reason Organization XIII wasn't renamed would be explained. Also about the Namine, Kairi thing Namine isn't part of Organization XIII Xion is the whole x thing is a Organization XIII thing not a Nobody thing. Also when was it stated that everone was against her, did I miss something???

Oh, Also about you earlier posts in the thread Organization XIII members would technically be considered anti-Hero's because their goal isn't anything evil, but their forced to use evil means to achieve it.