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sc94597 on 24 June 2008
kingofwale said:
sc94597 said:
SO the wii isn't casual enough now? Or is it only that the wii is casual when sony fans choose it to be? I would say yes it will sell well on a home console. The gamecube game sold 2 million , and that is with a smaller, and ONLY hardcore userbase.

 

how is... GC ONLY hardcore userbase? No, it's not as casual as Wii, but it's by no mean "ONLY' hardcore.

it sold "Well" on GC, but it didn't sell THAT well, to say it's better than one of the (if not THE) best game on PS2 is a joke.

it might win in sales number, but it fails in every other category when comparing to God of War.

We said bigger not better. The GC was kept alive by nintendo fanboys. Not many casuals bought the GC. Instead they bought the ps2.

 



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kingofwale on 24 June 2008
Hephaestos said:
kingofwale said:
sc94597 said:
kingofwale said:
sc94597 said:
Animal Crossing. One game in the animal crossing series out sold all in the god of war.

 

A game on DS, that's like calling Mario and Sonic a bigger franchise than God of War.


yes, it sold better, but is it a better game? Will it move consoles (a different console, nevertheless) and most importantly, will it get the hype it needed?

 

Well it has an average score in the high 80s in gamerankings. Not too far from God of War which is low 90s. The franchise will get hyped by casual and hardcore fans alike, and will move many consoles.

 

that's the difference between comparing an AA game with an AAA game. no different than comparing Gears of War with Resistence.


Game sold well... on DS, Will it sell as well on a home console?

 

The GC AC sold 2.9M.... on 20M consoles, GoW sold 3.2M on 120M PS2..... you do the math (and GoW2 sold 2.11M....)


Devil May Cry 3 sold 1.9 million in 120M PS2

Devil May Cry 4 sold 1.2 million in 13 M PS3

 

wait a second....... something seems to be wrong with that type of argument, no?



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Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
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dib8rman on 24 June 2008
kingofwale said:
sc94597 said:
Animal Crossing. One game in the animal crossing series out sold all in the god of war.

 

1. A game on DS, that's like calling Mario and Sonic a bigger franchise than God of War.


2. yes, it sold better, but is it a better game? Will it move consoles (a different console, nevertheless) and most importantly, will it get the hype it needed?

 

1. God of War is on the PSP >.> Not every game on the DS sells ya know.

 

2. The thread turned subjective here - at this event is where no point can be proven >.> You can't mix gut feeling and lusted wants to form "will it move consoles" questions - "will it get the hype needed?" Who knows the answer to this?

@OP

AC mainly because it's not as niche.

 

 

 



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hunter_alien on 24 June 2008

Does it sell better ? Yes . Does it move more systems ? Yes . AC seems to beat it .

But do I like it more ? NO ! Is it a higher quality game ? NO . Will it be abused more than GoW ? YES ! Can it be compared ? NO ... but still its my opinion so I can write whatever I want :)



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kingofwale on 24 June 2008
Soriku said:
leo-j said:
This is so completely idiotic.

God of war is EASILY the better game, saleswise its completely trumped by the DS game.


This thread wasn't meant to compare the games to decide which is better, we're arguing about which is bigger. AC is definitely bigger. Just look at sales. End of story.

/thread

 

 

Really???? Bigger franchise has nothing to do with whether the games in there are good?

Oh, My mistake then.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
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Majin-Tenshinhan on 24 June 2008

PS2 = 120 million userbase, GoW sold 3,2 million at it's best.
GC = 21 million (I think?) userbase, AC sold 3 million at it's best.

On handhelds:

AC: WW = 9,5 million
GoW: CoO = 0,75 million

Wii = 27,7 million userbase (at the moment).
PS3 = 13,6 million userbase (at the moment).

Let's check this, as well. GoW2 lost by 1,1 million to GoW. AC: WW won by 6,5 million against AC.

Do the math. While DS isn't the same console as Wii, it's pretty likely that many who own a DS will own a Wii. It's also pretty obvious that anyone who has the game on DS and owns a Wii will buy it, because of it's great reception.

To further continue the discussion, let's consider the fact that GoW is a fairly new franchise entering into a pretty old genre. It has to match up against all other games of it's kind, who are also moving upwards on the market.

AC, however, is (as far as I know) pretty unique, and it's own kind of game. So if someone wants an AC-type game, they'll buy AC. If someone wants a GoW-type game, they've got lots of other choices to consider as well.

Also, let me reassure you all that I am not biased. I dislike both AC and GoW.



Riot Of The Blood on 24 June 2008

Is this a joke question?

LOL what's bigger, Mario or Ratchet? Come on, dude. Why are you asking dumb questions, and, on top of that, pointless one's?



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Gobias on 24 June 2008

On the internet? God of War.

In real life? Animal Crossing.



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libellule on 24 June 2008

I prefer to wait to see if Ninty truly announce Animal Crossing at E3.



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The Ghost of RubangB on 24 June 2008

The reason Animal Crossing sold way better on DS than on the GC was because it had online. The GC one was basically single-player. Your only interaction was visiting each other's towns by putting 2 memory cards into your GC. Or when you had more than one person playing on your memory card, you could leave each other notes. The DS one had real-time online town-visiting for up to 4 people at once for live trading and chatting and fishing contests. So of course it sold way better. It's not just because it's the handheld version. A Wii version will have all the stuff the DS version had, and it should have more features and better online, and it will outsell any God of War game, and possibly the whole franchise combined.

Here's a comparison between Animal Crossing: Wild World and God of War 1 and God of War 2.

http://vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Animal+Crossing%3A+Wild+World+-+DS&reg2=All&game2=God+of+War+-+PS2&reg3=All&game3=God+of+War+II+-+PS2&weeks=100



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