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Sintinel said: Mr Stickball: You're an asshole...fuckin scalper. I don't see how people like you can call yourself gamers. I couldn't have been happier that all the PS3 scalpers got screwed when the demand for the PS3 died after a week. Why don't you return the systems so people who actually want to...I don't know... PLAY THEM can buy them.
Umm that's called capitalism. One of the main reason's America is the dominant economy. You do want you can to capitalize on people's needs and wants. If the there are people out there who want the wii so bad that they are willing to pay and extra $200 or so, then so be it. He is mearly giving them what they want. Eventually people that actaully want to play the system do get it.



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Sintinel said: Mr Stickball: You're an asshole...fuckin scalper. I don't see how people like you can call yourself gamers. I couldn't have been happier that all the PS3 scalpers got screwed when the demand for the PS3 died after a week. Why don't you return the systems so people who actually want to...I don't know... PLAY THEM can buy them.
I love it when people bash my PS3 because people do that... and then here we have a guy on the forums doing that for the Wii. OMGZOR. everyone that buys Wiis are putting them on e-bay for a quick penny. (seriously... I'm curious how many Wii's have been sold on E-bay since launch) Can anyone find that number? EDIT: 275$ seems kinda high, as their only selling for 25-50$ higher than retail + shipping. EDIT2: Some are selling for as high as 325. However where I live I pay25$ sales tax, which means console costs 275$/each. EDIT3: ROFL. This is Mr Stickball! http://i13.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/8a/a9/88cf_1.JPG EDIT4: ROFL. I just searched Wii... Auctions over 250$ (probibally missing some of the low start auctions) And got almost 1,000. Did a refined display.... There are around 400 Wii sales ending in the next 24 hours. Let's open a new post on that!



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superchunk said: Umm that's called capitalism. One of the main reason's America is the dominant economy. You do want you can to capitalize on people's needs and wants. If the there are people out there who want the wii so bad that they are willing to pay and extra $200 or so, then so be it. He is mearly giving them what they want. Eventually people that actaully want to play the system do get it.
And you my friend. Live a sheltered life. Last time I checked the American Economy was Sinking like a ROCK COMPARED TO China, Canada, and the EU.



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Looking at my numbers I refined my search. I pulled some strings and tweaked the search criteria. I'm sure I'm still missing a few Wii consoles... but I'm Quite sure the numbers will be quite close to the actual numbers. 632*31= 19592/month. I wonder how accurate my guess is... is it low? is it high? 20,000 units ABOVE demand. That's alot of Wiis. Once Nintendo meets demand. That's 20,000 wiis people dont want. Will be returned/sold for cheap on e-bay. When Will Wii supply meet demand? Dunno!



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Kwaad said: And you my friend. Live a sheltered life. Last time I checked the American Economy was Sinking like a ROCK COMPARED TO China, Canada, and the EU.
Not sure where you have been but the US has the strongest of all of these Economies. China is the only one with a larger growth rate at 10% but china's pollution is growing per dollar spent which will stop growth in a few years. Every part of the US economy is going strong with the exception of the housing market which just busted a few weeks ago and just now is starting to level off but still in the negative. I do think scalpers should be hung it is not capitalism it is a robbery.



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Jack said: Kwaad said: And you my friend. Live a sheltered life. Last time I checked the American Economy was Sinking like a ROCK COMPARED TO China, Canada, and the EU. Not sure where you have been but the US has the strongest of all of these Economies. China is the only one with a larger growth rate at 10% but china's pollution is growing per dollar spent which will stop growth in a few years. Every part of the US economy is going strong with the exception of the housing market which just busted a few weeks ago and just now is starting to level off but still in the negative. I do think scalpers should be hung it is not capitalism it is a robbery.
Americas Economy is not sinking like a rock. China is in a bubble state right now (much like US in 99/2000). Europe, hahaha. Has anyone here been to France or Italy? It's like socialism over there. And not only that you have 50% taxes? For what? No deductibles at all. Free health insurance? Please, people die waiting for procedures they could easily be treated for without health insurance in the US because doctors must treat patients if they have health insurance or not. Plus, the European countries don't have very good doctors because they are paid by the government, in a free market you get the best doctors because they are rewarded for work. If you compare our debt with GDP it's only about 2% of our GDP in the US, almost all European countries run a debt with 3 to 4% of their GDP. I'll gladly take my 22% taxes after my deductible and invest in the stock market (foriegn companies too) and gold. Even if the US dollar is week I still benefit by having foriegn stocks, gold and I can invest more of my money into it because I have a lower tax rate. And that 22% I achieved making 60,000 a year. Which is about a 30% tax bracket usually, that's the beauty of deductions. _____________________________ Back to the subject at hand. http://www.itrackr.com/details.aspx?pid=4 I just found all the Targets in Indianapolis have Wiis. It's not sold out, just go look. You may have to go to more than one store. But they're there.



The USD has lost a lot of it's value in the last 2 years. The Canadian dollar is up to 85cents for it's dollar into the US, when a few years ago it was barely above 70. Strong economy? Not as strong as you'd like to think.



Excuse-me for being off-topic, I just can't let all the BS Stromprophet has spewed. Yes, Stromprophet, what you say is pure BS. Unfortunately for you, I happen to live in France. So i must conclude everything you say is a lie, or a clueless rant. FYI, there are no 50 % taxes. Are you stupid or what ? The only people that pay 50 % taxes maximum on what their EARN, are people that have 750k+ € of properties, and again, not all of them do pay so much, the reacher are. Basically, even paying these taxes, the richer guys would go on being richer. There are free health insurance, and yet, doctors will treat you even if you don't have one. They don't even ask for one before doing surgery. And the doctors are not paid by the government, and are very well paid. Perhaps some are partly paid by the government, though it's rather the health insurance that pays. The american debt is already too much, and is worrying countless analysts. Now, I don't know USA economy well enough, so I'll stop there. The € is really strong since months, meaning I could buy a PS3 in the USA or Japan for less. If they were reliable, which I doubt. And yes, the Wii's sold out here too, some december preorders were still not fullfilled.



rendo said: The USD has lost a lot of it's value in the last 2 years. The Canadian dollar is up to 85cents for it's dollar into the US, when a few years ago it was barely above 70. Strong economy? Not as strong as you'd like to think.
The USD has been in a long term downtrend for more than 30 years. It's obvious to me you know nothing about economics or money. The US dollar is invested everywhere in the world, that's why America owns interests outside of the US so it doesn't have to depend on it's domestic economy. Companies like Caterpillar (which I work for as a design engineer) who get 50% of their income from Overseas but are still good old American homegrown companies. Every american worker who has a 401k or IRAs is invested more and more in foriegn economies, we have massive mutual funds that are funded by 401k mostly for average american workers, and most of them are invested 20% if not more in Foriegn markets, this prevent your dollar from declining because you get the advantage of currency appreciation from other companies. And if you invest in American companies domestically it's not bad either because most american companies are dominating other markets and get the benefit of currency exchange when they go back to US dollars and then this makes their stock go up and you benefit as an investor. American GDP is still 38% of the worlds economy. Of course we can't hold that forever, who can. Frankly, I don't mind the currency of other companies going up, Americans have been the worlds purchases of all products for too long. If the dollar goes down and we keep interest rates appropriate then manufacturing that has been outsourced will come back and we will be able to ship products to other countries, as opposed to now when a lot of countries ship their products to america to be sold. I will still have more net value than anyone from Europe of Canada because I don't have to pay a 50% tax rate making (20,000) a year. And my employer covers my healthcare. Also if you are smart and invest in things like precious metals and other commidities, like oil, etc. You will get appreciation for the value of those assets regardless of what currency you invest with, the outcome of the appreciation will be the same and it will protect your money. Canada and Europe are almost laughable because not matter if your are even poor you still have to pay a 50% tax on your income. What a joke. When's the last time anyone even referred to Canada when talking about global news??? Japan, EU, China, India, Germany, England, Russia, US sure. But no, Canada is never mentioned because it's 30 million people who basically have almost no say in world affairs. Sinking like a rock? The market was up 15% last year on par with almost all Europes markets. The only ones it was way behind were Russia, China, India, Venezuala. Because those markets are appreciating for reasons outside the scope of a fully developed economy. Just like any growth stock will eventually have it's growth decelerated. Google for instance, has great fundamentals but is now maturing and not achieving the accelerating growth it once had. Most world investors still put the majority of their money in Dollars becuase it's the safest money out there. And the top companies in the world are almost all american founded and american based, I'm not worried. Microsoft, Google, Exxon Mobile, etc, etc. Heck, even Toyota now has most of its operations here in the US even though it's not a US company. They will probably move their headquarters here one day.



ookaze said: Excuse-me for being off-topic, I just can't let all the BS Stromprophet has spewed. Yes, Stromprophet, what you say is pure BS. Unfortunately for you, I happen to live in France. So i must conclude everything you say is a lie, or a clueless rant. FYI, there are no 50 % taxes. Are you stupid or what ? The only people that pay 50 % taxes maximum on what their EARN, are people that have 750k+ € of properties, and again, not all of them do pay so much, the reacher are. Basically, even paying these taxes, the richer guys would go on being richer. There are free health insurance, and yet, doctors will treat you even if you don't have one. They don't even ask for one before doing surgery. And the doctors are not paid by the government, and are very well paid. Perhaps some are partly paid by the government, though it's rather the health insurance that pays. The american debt is already too much, and is worrying countless analysts. Now, I don't know USA economy well enough, so I'll stop there. The € is really strong since months, meaning I could buy a PS3 in the USA or Japan for less. If they were reliable, which I doubt. And yes, the Wii's sold out here too, some december preorders were still not fullfilled.
Come again. If there was a cogent sentence in there I might be inclined to respond. Almost every European country has a bas tax rate close to 50% of your income, that is simply a fact. It's the same way in Canada. On Canadas side another thing working on your money is the cost of living in almost any big city is outrageous and most commodities cost more. No people making way less also pay really high taxes. Only the rich pay the highest taxes in the US. "And the doctors are not paid by the government, and are very well paid. Perhaps some are partly paid by the government, though it's rather the health insurance that pays." The doctors are paid by the government because the insurance that pays the hospitals, doctors offices, etc. is all paid for by YOUR taxes. Your taxes pay for what is called "National Health Insurance" and then that insurance fund, which is run by the government pays the hospitals and medical facilities who then pay the doctors their wages. And yes, people can and do die waiting on all kinds of simple procedures. Common things like transplants, or bypasses take months to schedule where you could get such a life saving surgery in the US in a matter of days. As I said before. American debt is only 2% of GDP, almost every single European country runs at 3-4% debt to their total GDP. It's not that much considering how much GDP the US has on the world scene, it's perfectly in line with long term historical trends. And just incase you're interested. Which I know you won't read this links. http://members.forbes.com/global/2006/0522/032.html That is from Forbes, very reputable source. The 15 original European Union countries impose the largest tax enforcement on entrepreneurs (companies) and wage earners (workers) in the world. China is the only non-European country up there. I was surprised about Canada, I could've sworn theres was much higher. The sales tax is still outrageous though, and twice the US. Which is where the common consumer will feel hurt, income taxes and sales taxes. http://www.pacificresearch.org/pub/sab/health/single_prayer/sphc-gif.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publicly_funded_health_care http://www.policyalternatives.ca/documents/National_Office_Pubs/2005/Health_Care_Waitlists.pdf I found article after article on all kinds of diseass like Cystic Fibrosis, Liver Disease, etc, etc, surgery, where Europeans had to wait long periods of time for treatment. Yes, you do have to go into a que to receive treatment for many things. Sure, it's not like everyone is dying, but the fact is that many cannot improve their wait time by any means. If you want to read up on it go ahead. Those articles also point out Americans commonly have more access per capita to better technology and more research money is invested in America per capita than both in Canada and Europe on new technology. The first article points out in some places in Canada wait times could be as long as 15 weeks or more for things I could have access to here in America within days of going to the hospital. There are varied debates on the funding and how to go about funding healthcare, but the fact remains it's about 8% of European GDP to fund such healthcare, which more than the percentage we have of national debt to our GDP.