Why do you keep bringing up Fantasy=Kiddy?

SE said the Wii was kiddy.

Later when the Wii started ripping up SE changed their comments and said that the Wii has a more varied audience.Followed almost immediately with the new CC trailer with the flying kid and talked about how they wanted a more mature protagonist this time(fucking convenient,eh?).

Here's a tip.

Go to google news and type "square wii" and look at some of the most ignorant bullshit outside of Epic Games during 2007 and see how much crap SE spewed out before finally shutting up early Jan2008.

GC=Kiddy

Wii=Kiddy

Wii is winning?Oh wait.Time for the rugged, travel weary protagonist(their own words) this time.Not kiddy.

I have no doubt that this will be an excellent game since they are finally making a CC game they believe to be non-kiddy for the first time.But to defend their past bullshit?Please.Take it up with them.They're the one who couldn't keep their trap shut.The internet has documented all of their rubbish comments.

Last i heard it was suppose to come out the same year as the DS one did maybe this means SE is actually making it really good? I hope....

@bored4life

Your mixing opinion with reality a bit; as in your fusing them together.

FFCC didn't sell well because the selling point wasn't a selling point. No other reason.

In fact heres a nice linky proving it's not canceled:
http://na.square-enix.com/ffccnews/?p=47

That should pretty much /thread

Next I want to drive the point that Square knew FFCC was seen as a multiplayer game, which it was and wanted to drift away from that.

This link is the man himself:

"Itahana: There's a much more action oriented take. The key differences are that the previous games focused on multiplayer, and Crystal Bearers will be a more single player experience."
-Interview with Toshiyuki Itahana, Crystal Bearers Director, IGN, May16, 2007
http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/789/789024p1.html

I never said it was cancelled.It just might have been a possibility.

Plus.The last part is cherry picking.Of course they're not going to say that the game was a slap in the face of GC owners and that they're going to make it better this time since the Wii is winning.

Right now social gaming/multiplayer is the big thing out now in Japan so to say that it is holding it back goes against what the market wants.From lookng at receptions of the game only the "hardcore" minority hated the multiplayer.What turned off most peple is that they saw the game for what it was.This problem crossed over to the DS despite it being a good game since it has a bad image attached to the brand.The best way to keep the brand going was to change it's image entirely and this is what they have done(thankfully).

 Yea... although Tartarus is a bit too repetitive...

@bored4life

I'm not saying the multiplayer held it back at all, it's how the multiplayer was used that held it back. I'm saying also that Square realized that the multiplayer held it back at least in portion, but from what one could gather from what was stated by the Director Toshiyuki Itahana the entire development of multiplayer would be miniscule compared to development of the single player.

I'm not Square though, so this error if they did make it is their own, I'm saying (again) that what held FFCC (GC) back was the hardware requirements to abuse the selling point (multiplayer) and not that the game was marketed (developed) towards children.

No.

Go to google news and find it yourself.The articles are in 2007.That should help a bit.

This is the same case about Sandness, RE*, GTA*, MGS*, "Zelda series", "Animal Crossing ???", etc...

lol @Ghutto actually he's transitioning, he went from claiming his opinion as fact then moved to misguided misinterrpertation of facts and now he's giving resources that he believes is out of reach to cover his tail up, fortunately I know from memory what he's talking about, I won't google it for the same reason as Soriku won't, it's a time waster.

Anyway the article your talking about is the one where the designer for Rings of Fate who was involved in the FFCC (GC) version development reffered to FFCC as using children character models.

In japan that's actually a style of art that's accepted by otakus and art enthusiasts of a wide range of ages within the mediums applicable. Now if you ask me to google it, I'll have to ask you to google it because your the one that brought that interview up. I also feel I've done enough research on this thread. EDIT!!!!!!!---------------------------------- Actually Wada said "Wii is a toy." which was later reverberated after much was misinterpreted that what he mean't when he said toy was 'anyone could use it.'

I hope it hasn't been canceled, because the Wii REALLY lacks RPGs.