GotchayeX said: In general, I'm going to maintain that it's the user reviews that are off of the main readership - the people who write reviews are going to be biased in favor of the game, just as with many other 'niche' games that only appeal to a small section of the website's base. We sort of see this on metacritic, actually - note that Wii Sports only has 70 votes, while Zelda has hundreds. This is despite the fact that, quite demonstrably, more people own Wii Sports. Something is convincing fewer people to vote for Wii Sports, and I feel that it's that it's something of a niche game as far as hardcore gamers are concerned. And, as a niche title, I think the difference in scoring is quite appropriate.
I hope I'm not coming across as antagonistic - I strongly agree with your original claim that game reviewers don't know how to review games like Wii Sports properly. I just don't think that comparing user review scores to critical review scores provides strong evidence of this. Comparing the actual written reviews is much more telling, as you mention in a recent post, but is far less quantifiable. I'm also going to maintain that Wii Sports is fundamentally a niche game as far as the online readership of these sites is concerned.
I'm also in full agreement with you that we'll see a great deal of adaptation, and in the near future. We may even start to see nontraditional review specialists as nontraditional gamers become more mainstream on the internet. I think we'll see nontraditional games become a category similar to sports games - they'll be given scores that seem absurdly high to most of the site's readers but that seem just right to everyone who's actually interested in using the review score to determine whether or not to buy the game. |
In this case, it sounds like we simply disagree on one issue: the validity (or valid application) of the user review scores, especially those on metacritic. I certainly see your point about the number of reviews given, but I would add one more thing in the defense of my position: I believe that Wii Sports is the type of game that should suffer greatly from serious trolling and 0.0 scores, as it is symbolic of the new movement in video games that I believe many hardcore gamers feel threatened by. It wholey represents Wii-style play over the playstyle of traditional consoles and blockbusters like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, and Grand Theft Auto. The fact that Wii Sports hasn't been ground into dust by 0.0 scores surprises me -- and yet, we see quite the opposite.
And no, you don't seem antagonistic. In general, relatively peaceful and articulate conversations can only occur when people largely agree, aren't trying to provoke, but have small, sophisticated and subtle disagreements that drive lengthier conversations. Or put differently -- if you were simply saying "I hate Wii Sports, it sucks!" I'd simply ignore you. I spend time responding because I believe your posts have been imminently worth responding to.