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vaio on 07 June 2008

A new job listing has been posted on the job listings pages of the Nintendo of America website. Nintendo wishes to hire a Software/Hardware Tester, but the description highlights the importance of “Creating and executing a test plan for Wii’s USB devices.” There are a plethora of possibilities that the job description could be referring to, although the first concept that would come to mind is a hard drive. Perhaps Nintendo is finally beginning to take initiative to solve the storage solution on Wii.

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=1555

 

Some more storage speculations.



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vaio on 07 June 2008

Do you think this could be for usb harddrives or other periferals?



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allthehoneys on 07 June 2008

Other peripherals I would hope. If this is at all related to a push for a storage solution then you can bet your ass you won't see one for some time.



brute on 07 June 2008

i hope they make a HDD



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vaio on 07 June 2008
allthehoneys said:
Other peripherals I would hope. If this is at all related to a push for a storage solution then you can bet your ass you won't see one for some time.

Maybe they are testing and preparing for a christmas release of a hard drive.

Wouldn´t it be possible to connect a harddrive through bluetooth?



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allthehoneys on 08 June 2008
vaio said:
allthehoneys said:
Other peripherals I would hope. If this is at all related to a push for a storage solution then you can bet your ass you won't see one for some time.

Maybe they are testing and preparing for a christmas release of a hard drive.

Wouldn´t it be possible to connect a harddrive through bluetooth?

 

It's possible they could just be expanding on a team already late into the process, as you suggested.

As for the possibility of connecting a hard drive through Bluetooth: sure it's possible, but hardly practical. The current Bluetooth standard has a peak 3 Mbit/s data rate compared to USB 2.0's 480 Mbit/s, a 16x DVD's 168.75 Mbit/s or an internal hard drive's >1 Gbit/s data rate. They just don't compare; we're talking orders of maginitude difference in data rate.

 



vaio on 08 June 2008
allthehoneys said:
vaio said:
allthehoneys said:
Other peripherals I would hope. If this is at all related to a push for a storage solution then you can bet your ass you won't see one for some time.

Maybe they are testing and preparing for a christmas release of a hard drive.

Wouldn´t it be possible to connect a harddrive through bluetooth?

 

It's possible they could just be expanding on a team already late into the process, as you suggested.

As for the possibility of connecting a hard drive through Bluetooth: sure it's possible, but hardly practical. The current Bluetooth standard has a peak 3 Mbit/s data rate compared to USB 2.0's 480 Mbit/s, a 16x DVD's 168.75 Mbit/s or an internal hard drive's >1 Gbit/s data rate. They just don't compare; we're talking orders of maginitude difference in data rate.

 


Yes but the games in VC and Wii ware are so small so wouldn´t it work pretty good anyway?



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FaithRaven on 08 June 2008

Why would you want a bluetooth HDD instead of one that replaces the gray stand anyway ?



 

vaio on 08 June 2008
FaithRaven said:
Why would you want a bluetooth HDD instead of one that replaces the gray stand anyway ?

Actually I won´t need any hd I am fine as it is, I am just wondering and this seems to be the best place to get answers.



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Is marijuana the best medicine?

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“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

allthehoneys on 08 June 2008
vaio said:
allthehoneys said:
vaio said:
allthehoneys said:
Other peripherals I would hope. If this is at all related to a push for a storage solution then you can bet your ass you won't see one for some time.

Maybe they are testing and preparing for a christmas release of a hard drive.

Wouldn´t it be possible to connect a harddrive through bluetooth?

 

It's possible they could just be expanding on a team already late into the process, as you suggested.

As for the possibility of connecting a hard drive through Bluetooth: sure it's possible, but hardly practical. The current Bluetooth standard has a peak 3 Mbit/s data rate compared to USB 2.0's 480 Mbit/s, a 16x DVD's 168.75 Mbit/s or an internal hard drive's >1 Gbit/s data rate. They just don't compare; we're talking orders of maginitude difference in data rate.

 


Yes but the games in VC and Wii ware are so small so wouldn´t it work pretty good anyway?


If by pretty good you mean excessive load times or at worst stalls, then sure.  What you have to understand is that those data rates aren't fast at all.  First, those are peak data rates and due to it being a wireless medium they're much less close to their theoretical peaks than those utilizing a physical medium, so the typical tranfer rate is about a third less or 2.1 Mbits/s.  Then, don't forget these are bit rates; streaming 64 MB virtual console titles or 50 MB WiiWare games becomes impractical without.  Just to load a 64 MB file at those rates into memory would take over four minutes.  So now, what about streaming?  The problem now is Bluetooth's high latency (anywhere from 40-400 milliseconds) compared to system memory (order of nanoseconds) to several times to orders of magnitudes (possibilities for high variance) higher than a hard disk drives (about ~12 ns for a "slow" hard drive). Bluetooth is, in it's current state, the wrong tool for the job.  Nintendo would more likely choose to open up the SD card (much faster and low latency compared to BT) or some other flash option using the USB drive.