You guys really want to get up from the couch to swap discs? okaaayyy. I definitely prefer installs. "please insert disc 2" always drives me crazy, even when I'm on a computer. I'd go nuts if my console made me do that. Also, all the guys saying BD isn't fast enough, you're wrong. a 12x DVD can do a maximum data transfer rate of ~100mbps and a 2x BD can do 72 mbps. However, the DVD can only get 100mbps for the very outside of the disc. (in other words, for the first 200MB-1GB of data) after that, it drops down to below 70mbps. A BD 's data transfer rate drops much slower compared to a DVD because of the way the discs are read. (and the fact it's 6x bigger than a DVD helps too) So the massive installs are just the devs getting lazy, not because BD isn't fast enough. And maybe it isn't fast enough, but if it isn't neither is DVD. Either way, it's not out of the realm of possibility that sony will upgrade the BD drive of the PS3 with a FW update. (you can reprogram a device driver you know) I wonder what people will say about a 6x BD drive with 216mbps transfer rate....