@kn

Einstein did not believe in a personal God.

@fagarcia

If there is no proof that something exists, it is natural to believe it doesn't exist. Your last paragraph clearly shows everyone you have no idea what evolution is.

xstonexcold316x said: i believe in science so i guess i believe there is no supernatural being my family Christian but i just dont think there is a supernatural being

Some of the most brilliant scientist in history were believers in Christ.  The Bible talks about things that at their time would of been are were ridiculed by the "scientific world".  Only to find out later that the Bible was right.

Some false theories that have been proven to be false ; the truth being found in the Bible.

False:  Earth is the center of our solar system

Truth:  Sun is the center of our solar system

False:  Earth is flat

Truth:  Earth is round

False:  Spontaneous generation

Truth:  Life produces life

*The Bible is not a "scientific book", but it is God's Word and contains the truth.  Therefore any science in the book would be true, and has been proven to be true time and time again.

tombi123 said: @kn Einstein did not believe in a personal God. @fagarcia If there is no proof that something exists, it is natural to believe it doesn't exist. Your last paragraph clearly shows everyone you have no idea what evolution is.

I know full well what evolution is.  The sad thing is that many are wrapped up in the "science of evolution" and have no clue, or have been totally blinded to the fact that evolution is one of the biggest lies to ever be belched out of the pit of the Devil.

God created this world.  Period!

fagarcia75 said: I lived for seventeen years before I became a Chrsitian, and those latter years of my teenage life were actually very depressing, vain, and empty.  I had no self-worth, and saw no reason to live and even contemplated suicide. After I became a Christian and recieved Christ (who is God by the way) as my Saviour my life had real fulfillment, meaning and purpose.  Christians who serve God are no doubt the happiest and most blessed people on earth. heaven.

I felt the same way... Before I met my BF. My life didn't had a purpose before I met him. Does it mean he's God? O_O

@fagarcia75

you are a fool, the sun is not the centre of the universe. I don't know what it says in the bible on the matter but the Christian Church adopted Ptomely's model of the universe which has the Earth as the centre of the universe and everything else orbiting around the Earth.

Doesn't the bible also say that the world is only 6,000 years old, when in actual FACT it is roughly 6 thousand million years old.

I suppose you believe that God created the universe in six days and rested on the seventh. There is something fundementally wrong with this IDEA (it's not a theory). A day is how long a planet takes to spin 360 degrees on its axis, yet this is a different length of time for each planet, and God didn't create planets until the third day, so what about the first two? It does not make sense to measure how long the universe took to be "created" in days.

The Bible was written thousands of years ago ny men, any science in it is mostly wrong or very inaccurate.

@tombi123

have you even read the Bible???
If not then don't talk about what is or isn't in it.

Anyone who believes the earth is 6 thousand million years old has a lot of explaining to do. For one thing our sun is shrinking. On a very small scale of course, but as it gives heat to our earth, it is consuming itself slowly over time. That is how starts die by the way.

Scientifically if the earth was as old as you say, the sun 6 thousand millions years ago would be so huge, it would have consumed the earth in fervert heat.
Another thing. What is the evidence that the earth is that old??? As far as I know it does not exist, or you would have so clearly stated if for us.

Yes I do believe God created the earth in 6 literal 24 hour days, and that he rested on the seveth. As far as different times on different planets go, last time I checked we live on earth? And our days and calender year are based on what earth. right? God is timeless, and exists beyond the concept of time. God does not need time, but did create it for our benefit.

Religion is a choice one has to make for themselves. No one can prove or disprove that God exists. That's why it's more commonly referred to as faith. Faith to believe in the unseen. Faith to believe in something to the very core of your being.

You have to make the choice for yourself if you believe in God and the Bible. No one can tell you whether or not it's real.

For me personally, I believe in God. I believe that there is a higher purpose for all of us.. that there is something greater than any of us could ever attain while here on Earth.. that this is not all there is. And no one can say whether or not this is true. We will all know one day.

So if you choose to believe in God, awesome. If not, awesome. Live your life the way you see fit.

Malcom said: Religion is a choice one has to make for themselves. No one can prove or disprove that God exists. That's why it's more commonly referred to as faith. Faith to believe in the unseen. Faith to believe in something to the very core of your being. You have to make the choice for yourself if you believe in God and the Bible. No one can tell you whether or not it's real. For me personally, I believe in God. I believe that there is a higher purpose for all of us.. that there is something greater than any of us could ever attain while here on Earth.. that this is not all there is. And no one can say whether or not this is true. We will all know one day. So if you choose to believe in God, awesome. If not, awesome. Live your life the way you see fit.

Well said, Malcom, expect for that last line.  If someone chooses not to believe in God it is indeed their choice and they are entitled to it, but it is not awesome.  For if there really is a God then there really is a heaven and a hell.  Ultimately God gives us all the freedom and choice to make the decisions that we want, but to reject Him has eternal consequences.

And here comes the creationist:

fagarcia75 said: One more thought: the burden of proof is not for me to prove that God exists, but rather you prove to me that He does not.

Only if you are debating with a person who asserts that God does not exist.  If you are the one saying God exists, then it certainly is your task in a debate to prove that your assertion is right. 

"Evolution" -- that is, the scientific theories about the evolution of forms of life into other forms of life -- is in no way a religion, and the fact that you say it is a religion betrays a fundamental (or should I say fundamentalist?) lack of understanding of science.   Evolution does not even "reject God as the creator of all things"; it only rejects the literal creation event described in Genesis. 


There wasn't really much of a "scientific world" at the time of the Bible, and the Greeks believed the world to be round back at least as far back as 500 BC without any helping hints from the Old Testament.  India, too. 


For every scientific truth in the Bible there are a dozen things it gets wrong.  I don't hold this against the Bible because it is not in fact a science book, but don't pretend it is 100% correct in matters of fact.  It is not.  Even most religious leaders acknowledge this and hold it up only as a spiritual guide.


I think you know only the lies you have been fed about what evolution is. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_a_theory_and_fact
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-definition.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html


The "explanation" he has to do is that "6 billion years old" is an outdated number that was replaced by the current approximation of about 4.6 billion years.  Also keep in mind that this figure is for when the planet began forming, before it even had a solid surface! 

The sun is NOT shrinking significantly; in fact it has remained about the same size since early in its 'life', but it will very slowly get bigger on its way to becoming a "red giant", as many stars do later in 'life'.  The way stars "die" depends on how you want to count "death" and how big it is.  Our star will enter the "red giant phase", which consists of a very large outer sphere around a small core.  This will end when the core eats itself up to the point that the outer sphere just drifts off into space.  What is left will be a "white dwarf", which is a very small, very dense remnant which will basically just sit there getting gradually colder until the star is completely dead. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Life_cycle
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/sun/sundeath.shtml


I think it's pretty ironic that someone so clearly ignorant expects some random forum poster to be an expert on the geological and astronomical history of the Earth and solar system, and also make the time to expain it in small words and short, fundamentalist-compatible sentences.  We don't KNOW that the Earth is 4.56 billion years old; it didn't leave a birth certificate.  But some educated guesses have been made by some very educated people, based on what we have seen in the stars and on our mathematics and on our computer models and on the geological history that we DO know. 

By the way, I learned all this in high school science.  I guess you were too busy reading the Bible to pay attention, though. 

 

"By the way, I learned all this in high school science. I guess you were too busy reading the Bible to pay attention, though"

Actually I did not become a believer in Christ until I was 17, and so I heard the same teaching you did in high school, and I believed the same lies. You should really study the other side, even for perhaps from an educational standpoint. There are so many flaws, fallacies, and ludicrous assumptions that go with the big bang/evolution mindset.

There is perhaps two "flaws" with what I believe; namely, that no one can prove that God exists and that the Bible is His Word to us. I believe both of these by faith, and I have full confidence that God does exist, and I know that He is real.