ill gladly debate laserdisc and why it failed. but UMD isnt comparable as it wasnt home media. tracking UMD vs. dvd or Blu-ray isnt logical since it cant be played as home cinema...just two different things....just because UMD was tracking higher than DVD, which doesnt matter since theyre different products to begin with......had we been having this discussion when UMD was starting out id be firmly argueing UMD isnt a mass market product.

The basis for tech failure or success is based on improvement and unchange. By that, laserdiscs were massive and ahea dof their time...no one felt the need for that improvement and at its price and size it was too large of a change. UMD's made DVD players go away. People were comfortable with their discs, CD's, DVD's it was normal to people....UMD gave people an on the go option for their PSP but the market was unsustainable based on the advantage when compared to portable DVD's players.

Enter Blu-ray. People love Hi Definition. We see it for sporting events. General consumers "get" HD. They see the football games on sunday in HD and love it...they see the quality, they invest in a large HD TV they want to use it. They see the benefit. As opposed to laserdisc the price isnt outrageous, the disc isnt goofy and all you need to SEE the benefits is the HD TV which is becoming standard in many homes. People want normalcy with improvement...they want to understand why theyre spending extra money....aside form collecters and enthusiests people didnt understand laserdsiscs...whereas people understand HD, they understand movies....thus i think Blu-ray is a bit different.

Discussing simply numbers doesnt do justice to the debate that needs to be had when discussing the adoption of Blu-ray. The only thing that will settle this is time...and just as i said in the previous LordKNight "HD DVD vs. BD" debates...im fairly confident im right as well. so i guess ill pop back in sometime in the fall when Blu-ray is a phenomenon this xmas.

I can't play a Smash Bros brawl without buying a Wii. Why are Nintendo FORCING a Wii on me!

If people "Love" and "Get" HD why are HDTVs in less than 25% of homes with most users not having their TVs hooked up correctly, or unwilling to spend the additional money on HD cable?

i'd be interested to know where you got that 25% figure from , i'm guessing out of thin air.

I'm not saying Blu-Ray is doing poorly, but there is no evidence to show that interest in Blu-Ray has spread outside of PS3 owners. Even the total of 11 Million movies sold is pretty poor when you consider that, that works out to 1 movie for every PS3 and a large portion of those movies would have been bought by a rental store or by a handfull of collectors; in other words, if people "Love" and "Get" HD why have most PS3 owners not spent their own money to buy a single Blu-Ray movie?

that 11 million figure is for america only , so it doesn't work out at 1 movie per PS3 . On the basis of you using crappy evidence to justify the content of your post, it fails.

LOL. Good one...unfortunately we sometimes have to buy consoles to play our games.

On the other hand, I have yet to see what Bluray can bring to my gaming needs...other than longer load time and manditory installs. You'd think 360 would need installs instead as they'd need to pack content in to a disk to make it fit on to 9 gigs..

 ill gladly debate laserdisc and why it failed. but UMD isnt comparable as it wasnt home media. tracking UMD vs. dvd or Blu-ray isnt logical since it cant be played as home cinema...just two different things....just because UMD was tracking higher than DVD, which doesnt matter since theyre different products to begin with......had we been having this discussion when UMD was starting out id be firmly argueing UMD isnt a mass market product.

The basis for tech failure or success is based on improvement and unchange. By that, laserdiscs were massive and ahea dof their time...no one felt the need for that improvement and at its price and size it was too large of a change. UMD's made DVD players go away. People were comfortable with their discs, CD's, DVD's it was normal to people....UMD gave people an on the go option for their PSP but the market was unsustainable based on the advantage when compared to portable DVD's players.

Enter Blu-ray. People love Hi Definition. We see it for sporting events. General consumers "get" HD. They see the football games on sunday in HD and love it...they see the quality, they invest in a large HD TV they want to use it. They see the benefit. As opposed to laserdisc the price isnt outrageous, the disc isnt goofy and all you need to SEE the benefits is the HD TV which is becoming standard in many homes. People want normalcy with improvement...they want to understand why theyre spending extra money....aside form collecters and enthusiests people didnt understand laserdsiscs...whereas people understand HD, they understand movies....thus i think Blu-ray is a bit different.

Discussing simply numbers doesnt do justice to the debate that needs to be had when discussing the adoption of Blu-ray. The only thing that will settle this is time...and just as i said in the previous LordKNight "HD DVD vs. BD" debates...im fairly confident im right as well. so i guess ill pop back in sometime in the fall when Blu-ray is a phenomenon this xmas.

@ Viper1

but not software^^

Which is what all you xbox fanboys say is most important right?