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Forums - Sales Discussion - PAL charts week 22 (2008), GTA 4 fifth week, always leader ????

BKK2 said:
A combination of GTA sales dropping with M&S and Wii Play increasing puts GTA IV PS3 down to fourth. GTA IV PS3 sales will be reliant on hardware sales now, with an attach rate of nearly 50% there can't be many PS3 owners interested in the game who haven't bought it yet.

No split for GRID given, but HAZE second week was higher than GRID PS3's first.

Are there promotions or retail bundles for Sega Superstar Tennis? Seems strange for that title to suddenly jump up from 24th to 9th.

In the All Formats chart GTA IV is still #1, I remember a bookie was giving very good odds for MGS4 being the first game to knock it off. If GTA IV can last one more week I expect quite a few people will pocket some cash from that.

Quake Wars bombed, #20 on 360, and not even in Top 40 on PS3.

Looks like US is taking all of UK's Wii Fit supply.

Top Ten is nicely spread: 4 x Wii, 3 x 360, 3 x PS3.

Well, I'm sure MGS 4 will outsell GTA IV in its launch week, but I'm far from sure GTA IV will survive next week. Lego Indiana Jones launches on a lot of platforms and Nintendo could surprise by new WiiFit stock.



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Norway charts:


Home consoles:

http://www.vg.no/spill/topp20konsoll.hbs?liste=2&uke=24&aar=2008

01 01 Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3, 360)
02 02 Guitar Hero 3: Legends of Rock (PS2, PS3, 360, Wii)
03 05 UEFA Euro 2008 (PS2, PS3, 360)
04 03 Mario Kart Wii (Wii)
05 06 FIFA 08 (PS2, PS3, 360, Wii)
06 08 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (PS3, 360)
07 07 Singstar Summer Party (PS2)
08 04 Wii Fit (Wii)
09 09 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (PS3)
10 NE Ben 10: Protector of Earth (PS2, Wii)
11 12 MX vs. ATV: Untamed (PS2, PS3, 360, Wii)
12 19 Assassin's Creed (PS3, 360)
13 10 Iron Man (PS2, PS3, 360, Wii)
14 14 Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
15 18 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 (PS3, 360)
16 15 Need For Speed: ProStreet (PS2, PS3, 360, Wii)
17 16 Army of Two (PS3, 360)
18 NE Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters (PS2)
19 RE Burnout Paradise (PS3, 360)
20 RE Guitar Hero II  (PS2, 360)


Handhelds:

http://www.vg.no/spill/topp10handholdt.hbs?liste=3&uke=24&aar=2008

01 01 High School Musical 2: Work This Out (DS)
02 02 New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
03 03 Pokémon Diamond/Pearl (DS)
04 04 Nintendogs (DS)
05 RE Mario Party DS (DS)
06 05 Mario Kart DS (DS)
07 07 The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS)
08 08 Super Mario 64 DS (DS)
09 10 UEFA Euro 2008 (PSP)
10 06 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (DS)


PC:

http://www.vg.no/spill/topp10pc.hbs?liste=1&uke=24&aar=2008

01 01 Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
02 03 The Sims 2: Fritid
03 04 The Sims 2
04 02 Football Manager 2008
05 06 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
06 RE Crysis
07 RE The Sims 2: Dyreliv (PC)
08 09 Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath
09 05 Josefine Skolehjelp: Bokstavjungelen
10 07 Assassin's Creed



Switzerland charts:

http://www.siea.ch/charts/langswitch_lang/fr/

Woche 22/2008
(26.05.2008 - 31.05.2008)

Nintendo DS

TopVWTitel
12DR. KAWASHIMAS GEHIRN-JOGGING
NINTENDO
21MARIO KART
NINTENDO
35NEW SUPER MARIO BROS
NINTENDO
43MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES
SEGA
54DR. KAWASHIMA'S: MEHR GEHIRN JOGGING
NINTENDO
6MARIO PARTY
NINTENDO
7HANNAH MONTANA: MUSIC JAM
DISNEY INTERACTIVE
89PROF. KAGEYAMA'S MATH'S TRAINING
NINTENDO
9POKEMON DIAMOND
NINTENDO
10ENGLISH TRAINING 2: FOR EVERYDAY SITUATIONS
NINTENDO

PC Games

TopVWTitel
1AGE OF CONAN: HYBORIAN ADVENTURE
EIDOS
2ASSASSIN'S CREED
UBISOFT
3RACE DRIVER GRID
CODEMASTER
46CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
ACTIVISION
57UEFA EURO 2008
ELECTRONIC ARTS
68SIEDLER: AUFSTIEG EINES KÖNIGREICHS
UBISOFT
7FIFA 08
ELECTRONIC ARTS
8WORLD OF WARCRAFT: THE BURNING CRUSADE - ADDON
VIVENDI GAMES
94SIMS 2 KÜCHEN- UND BADEINRICHTUNGSACCESSOIRES - AD
ELECTRONIC ARTS
10SIMS 2 FREE TIME - ADDON
ELECTRONIC ARTS

Playstation Portable

TopVWTitel
1UEFA EURO 2008
ELECTRONIC ARTS
2GTA: VICE CITY STORIES (UNCUT)
TAKE 2
3FIFA 08 (PLATINUM)
ELECTRONIC ARTS
4PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008
KONAMI
57FIFA STREET 2 (PLATINUM)
ELECTRONIC ARTS
63NEED FOR SPEED - MOST WANTED 5-1-0 (PLATINUM)
ELECTRONIC ARTS
76GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES (UNCUT)
TAKE 2
85RATCHET & CLANK: SIZE MATTERS (PLATINUM)
SONY
9GOD OF WAR: CHAINS OF OLYMPUS
SONY
10SSX ON TOUR (PLATINUM)
ELECTRONIC ARTS

PS2

TopVWTitel
1UEFA EURO 2008
ELECTRONIC ARTS
23FIFA 08
ELECTRONIC ARTS
32PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008
KONAMI
4PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2008 (PLATINUM)
KONAMI
54FIFA 08 (PLATINUM)
ELECTRONIC ARTS
6SINGSTAR SUMMER PARTY
SONY
75GTA: SAN ANDREAS (PLATINUM)
TAKE 2
89FIFA STREET 2 (PLATINUM)
ELECTRONIC ARTS
9FAST AND FURIOUS: TOKYO DRIFT
ELECTRONIC ARTS
107BLACK
ELECTRONIC ARTS

PS3

TopVWTitel
1GTA IV
TAKE 2
2RACE DRIVER GRID
CODEMASTER
32HAZE
UBISOFT
4UEFA EURO 2008
ELECTRONIC ARTS
53GRAN TURISMO 5: PROLOGUE
SONY
65ASSASSIN'S CREED
UBISOFT
76CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
ACTIVISION
87FIFA 08
ELECTRONIC ARTS
9VIRTUA TENNIS 3
SEGA
10ENEMY TERRITORY: QUAKE WARS
ACTIVISION

Wii

TopVWTitel
1MARIO KART - INCL. WHEEL
NINTENDO
2WII-FIT WITH BALANCE BOARD
NINTENDO
3WII PLAY + REMOTE CONT.
NINTENDO
45MARIO PARTY 8
NINTENDO
54SUPER MARIO GALAXY
NINTENDO
6MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES
SEGA
7BOOM BLOX
ELECTRONIC ARTS
89ZELDA TWILIGHT PRINCESS
NINTENDO
98GAME PARTY
MIDWAY
10BIG BRAIN ACADEMY
NINTENDO

XBOX 360

TopVWTitel
1GTA IV
TAKE 2
2RACE DRIVER GRID
CODEMASTER
32FIFA 08
ELECTRONIC ARTS
43UEFA EURO 2008
ELECTRONIC ARTS
5ENEMY TERRITORY: QUAKE WARS
ACTIVISION
67TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX VEGAS 2
UBISOFT
79NEED FOR SPEED PROSTREET
ELECTRONIC ARTS
84CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE
ACTIVISION
98ARMY OF TWO
ELECTRONIC ARTS
106ASSASSIN'S CREED
UBISOFT

 

 



Italy charts (Grid delayed one week on ps3):

http://www.forumeye.it/invision/index.php?showtopic=439015&st=40

Italia
Week 22 - 26 Maggio-1° Giugno

01 Race Driver: GRID 360 100
02 GTA IV PS3 42,16
03 Emergency Mayhem WII 35,56
04 Cooking Mama 2 DS 23,57
05 Training Di Matematica DS 22,94
06 GTA IV 360 22,03
07 Wii Play WII 21,34
08 Brain Training DS 19,46
09 UEFA Euro 2008 PS2 14,70
10 Mario Kart WII 14,34
11 Mario & Sonic Ai Giochi Olimpici DS 14,08
12 More Brain Training DS 14,05
13 Practice English DS 12,80
14 Haze PS3 11,69
15 Nintengogs Labrador DS 11,43

Fonte: GFK

Ricordo che Nielsen copre circa il 50% del mercato italiano mentre GFK il 68% di quello SW ed il 70% di quello HW


Numbers of prosugno:

Italy, week ended June 1
01 Race Driver: GRID (360) [17.650]
02 GTA IV (PS3) [7.450]
03 Emergency Mayhem (WII) [6.300]
04 Cooking Mama 2 (DS) [4.150]
05 Wii Play (WII) [4.100]
06 Training Di Matematica (DS) [4.050]
07 GTA IV (360) [3.950]
08 Brain Training (DS) [3.450]
09 More Brain Training (DS) [2.750]
10 UEFA Euro 2008 (PS2) [2.600]


PC
01 Race Driver: GRID [5.800]
02 Age Of Conan - Hyborian Adventures
03 Assassin's Creed Director's Cut Edition
04 Imperium Civitas Premium
05 The Sims 2 Kitchen & Bath Interior Design Stuff
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with those explanations:

05 Wii Play (WII) [4.100]

09 More Brain Training (DS) [2.750]

 

 

Wii Play [3.800]

Wii play [300]

total [4.100]

 

More Brain Training [2.500]

More Brain Training [250]

Total [2.750]

 

Italy charts with right percentages:

http://www.forumeye.it/invision/index.php?showtopic=439015

01 Race Driver: GRID (360) [100%]
02 GTA IV (PS3) [42,16%]
03 Emergency Mayhem (WII) [35,56%]
04 Cooking Mama 2 (DS) [23,57%]
05 Wii Play (WII) [23,13%]
06 Training Di Matematica (DS) [22,94%]
07 GTA IV (360) [22,03%]
08 Brain Training (DS) [19,46%]
09 More Brain Training (DS) [15,45%]
10 UEFA Euro 2008 (PS2) [14,70%]
11 Mario Kart (WII) [14,34%]
12 Mario & Sonic Ai Giochi Olimpici (DS) [14,08%]
13 Practice English (DS) [12,80%]
14 Haze (PS3) [11,69%]
15 Nintengogs Labrador (DS) [11,43%]

 

Charts from Nielsen:

http://www.multiplayer.it/notizia.php?id=56142

    TOP 10 All Formats
  1. Race Driver: GRID (Xbox 360)
  2. Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3)
  3. Wii Play (Wii)
  4. Cooking Mama 2: Dinner With Friends (DS)
  5. Training di Matematica del Dr. Kageyama (DS)
  6. Grand Theft Auto IV (X360)
  7. Wii Emergency Mayem (Wii)
  8. Race Driver: GRID (PC)
  9. Brain Training del Dr. Kawashima (DS)
  10. UEFA Euro 2008 (PS2)
    Top 10 PC
  1. Race Driver: GRID
  2. Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
  3. World of Warcraft Game Card
  4. Assassin's Creed
  5. Imperium Civitas Premium
  6. The Sims 2 Kitchen and Bath Interior Design Stuff
  7. Imperium Civitas 2
  8. MotoGP 07
  9. X-Plane ver. 7
  10. Call of duty 4: Modern Warfare
    TOP 10 PS2
  1. UEFA Euro 2008
  2. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  3. Moto GP 07
  4. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas Platinum
  5. FIFA 08
  6. FIFA 08
  7. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3Iron Man
  8. I Simpson
  9. Crash of the Titans
  10. Naruto Uzumaki Chronicles 2
    TOP 10 PS3
  1. Grand Theft Auto IV
  2. Haze
  3. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
  4. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  5. UEFA Euro 2008
  6. Time Crisis 4
  7. Assassin's Creed
  8. Call of Duty 4
  9. Formula One Championship Edition
  10. FIFA 08
    TOP 10 Wii
  1. Wii Play
  2. Emergency Mayhem
  3. Mario Kart con Wii Wheel
  4. Wii Fit + Balance Board
  5. Super Mario Galaxy
  6. Mario Party 8
  7. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  8. Mario & Sonic alle Olimpiadi
  9. Cooking Mama
  10. Big Brain Academy
    TOP 10 Xbox 360
  1. RAce Driver: GRID
  2. Grand Theft Auto IV
  3. Call of Duty 4
  4. Assassin's Creed
  5. Guitar Hero III
  6. Fifa 08 Classics
  7. Forza Motorsport 2
  8. Fifa 08
  9. UEFA Euro 2008
  10. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
    TOP 10 DS
  1. Cooking Mama 2: Dinner with Friends
  2. Training di Matematica del prof. Kageyama
  3. Brain Training del Dr. Kawashima
  4. More Brain Training del Dr. Kawashima
  5. Mario & Sonic alle Olimpiadi
  6. Practice English: l'Inglese per Tutti
  7. More Brain Training del Dr. Kawashima
  8. English Training: Migliora il tuo Inglese
  9. Stelle sul Ghiaccio
  10. Pokémon Diamante
    TOP 10 PSP
  1. Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
  2. FIFA 08
  3. The Simpsons
  4. FIFA 08 Platinum
  5. UEFA Euro 2008
  6. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
  7. God of War: Chains of Olympus
  8. Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
  9. The Simpsons Special Price
  10. Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Heroes
    Classifica Hardware:
  1. Nintendo DS
  2. Wii
  3. PSP
  4. PlayStation 3
  5. PlayStation 2
  6. Xbox 360


Astonishing result for 360 version of GRID in Italy. It sold 7 times more than Burnout Paradise in its debut. Looking forward what PS3 version will do next week.



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France charts (the top 5):

http://www.sell.fr/spip.php?article57

TOP 5 CONSOLES

1
Wii Fit + Balance Board
Wii
Nintendo
2
Mario Kart Wii + volant Wii Wheel
Wii
Nintendo
3
GTA IV
PS3
Take2
4
GTA IV
Xbox 360
Take2
5
Wii play + télécommande
Wii
Nintendo

 

TOP 5 PC

1
Age of Conan
Eidos
2
Race Driver Grid
Codemasters
3
Age of Conan : Edition Collector
Eidos
4
Assassin’s Creed
Ubisoft
5
Call of duty 4 : Modern Warfare
Activision

 



France (top 20):

http://www.gamekult.com/blog/marchiavel/

Not published this week, and will not be published until the end of August. So, it will miss 10 weeks or something like that for the top 20. I hope the sell will continue to published the top 5.

Sorry, but in France, we are really not good for these charts.



France is the second largest market in Europe by quite a bit, but S.E.L.L. do a really terrible job of supplying the GfK French charts. Why does it take so long for them to post it, and why is it only the top five? Compared to what we get from ELSPA in the UK it is pathetic. We even get far better from much smaller markets like Sweden.

How do the game stores display their games in France? I haven't been to the UK in a while, but many stores have that week's top 40 displayed in order. I guess this is impossible for French retailers to do? Or do they just use their own sales figures and each chain has it's own top 10/20/30/40 etc?

It's really weird why French charts take so long, Chart-Track receive POS data daily from their tracked stores in UK, surely the same should be true for GfK France? It's certainly true for Netherlands, GfK supply the charts the very next day after the week ends.



BKK2 said:
France is the second largest market in Europe by quite a bit, but S.E.L.L. do a really terrible job of supplying the GfK French charts. Why does it take so long for them to post it, and why is it only the top five? Compared to what we get from ELSPA in the UK it is pathetic. We even get far better from much smaller markets like Sweden.

How do the game stores display their games in France? I haven't been to the UK in a while, but many stores have that week's top 40 displayed in order. I guess this is impossible for French retailers to do? Or do they just use their own sales figures and each chain has it's own top 10/20/30/40 etc?

It's really weird why French charts take so long, Chart-Track receive POS data daily from their tracked stores in UK, surely the same should be true for GfK France? It's certainly true for Netherlands, GfK supply the charts the very next day after the week ends.

 

 France, a country where everything is possible, ten weeks later than others. We do love our vacations, all year long.



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