The only good game Ubisoft ever made was Rayman, so the chances of them putting out a title worth mentioning on the Wii, or any other console are slim.

Well...that guy (Raide, UK Forum Manager) made it sound like there is no reason to make "hardcore" games for the Wii at all. It's just a casual box to throw all of your afterschool activities on, like sports, Babyzsitting, and hula hooping or something. Which "hardcore" games that were actually good and marketed didn't sell well?

"The majority may want something different." That still leaves millions of others who actually want one. When The Conduit gets released, who wants to bet it will sell at least 250k first week. The only way it could seem like Wii owners don't want an FPS is because NO ONES MAKING ANY!

Despite what he says, the casual market has always existed, its just that no one marketed games towards it, which Nintendo is doing now. If he ignores the games with Wii in the title, those AAA titles are selling very well (Twilight Princess, Smash Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, RE4)

Maybe if games were made that were actually AAA, they would sell.

      Ubisoft just like many other 3rd party companies have trapped themselves in a situation where they now have to release hit after hit on the HD consoles even if they want a glance from the owners.In order to sustain this strategy they need to release shovelware which then makes it on the Wii.
Even though most of these companies barely make back the money if at all(hence the 3rd parties crying that their games are not selling) they believe they have no choice.
      The industry outside of the Wii shrank by 19% last year despite all the records we were hearing about.In order for most of these companies to grow they actually have to abandon the HD consoles,but as we all know it will never happen.To use "Blue Ocean" in this scenario is appropriate since these companies believe the current maket they are in is the vital one and look into the new market and see nothing for them.
      Meanwhile,Nintendo helps small developers to harness the new market and by the time the bigger stubborn companies finally try to actually make a real effort it might be too late.The audience will genuinely believe these companies are crap and will buy the alternative that they perceive to be better.
      Ever wondered how most big companies can't even get 3rd gen GC graphics on the Wii even if they tried(i.e.because they never learnt to push GC last gen as Julien Eggerbrecht has said.Also the DS as well) yet small companies after "studying the hardware" for less than a year have engines able to unlock all the features of the CPU and GPU.
      Please 3rd parties use your brains.Nintendo is creating a situation which basically cripples or even kills those who don't support them well.

You seem to be reinforcing my point about how they both target different areas of the market. There is overlap but then again all Oceans in the world are connected to one another.

You will find that the best games of each genre appeal to a wider variety of people. The best games tend to draw people from outside the genres core audience and thus have greater sales potential.

Thats it for now, im going to bed.

They have made a decent Prince of Persia game for the wii with decent graphics. Obviously they are not happy with sales. It's only $20 now, so if you want ubisoft to make more hard core games you should pick it up.

Absolute Bullshit. 

mmmm...  things are going bad for ubi in that forum...

LOL Kingwii nice sig

Wow you are all so bitter. If you want Ubisoft's games buy a 360 or PS3. If you don't want Ubisoft's games what are you complaining about?