As I said, that's tangential to what was being discussed. This discussion started when you stated an opinion which was partly based on the incorrect assumption that maxing out the Wii was about as expensive as maxing out the PS3 and 360.

Regarding the part of the argument you're talking about now, I don't think it works that way most of the time. Very few developers are really about graphics above all (Epic is an example, I don't expect them to focus on the Wii). Most developers will just see the Wii as a cheaper way to make their games, graphics being an afterthought. This doesn't mean they won't care about making good graphics, they still will, it just means that the choice of platform won't be determined by graphics.

And here's another for your enjoyment...

First of all if you have a standard TV, halo 2 and 3 may look similar but in HD, no way.

Secondly, people seem to talk about how Wii is pushing gameplay and ps360 are only upgrading visuals. Do you know howmany fun features (especially in multiplayer) Halo 3 added on top of Halo 2? Much more than Metroid Prime 3 added on top of 2...

So ps360 are pushing gameplay as much as the wii if not more...but they look better when you have money to spend.

Good read overall Grampy, too bad people will not listen. We've been saying and explaining this for a while, but I still see people saying Metal Gear Solid 3 couldn't be done on the Wii

Also, Nintendo has a bit of fault, because the Wii SDK sucks. The first versions where pretty much copy/paste from the Gamecube ones, just change some clock speeds here and there and you're go.

Third party developers and the Wii...it never ends...

We all know the Wii isn't about graphics, but people keep on saying "look how good SMG looks", well to my eyes it looks only slightly better than Mario Sunshine.

So i don't know how good the graphics on the Wii can get but at the moment i'm not so optimistic.

So when it comes, for example, developing GT5 you believe it would be cheaper to cram the game into 88mb of ram than into 256mb -512mb of ram? Maxing out any system requires lots of time and effort. Now the Big N has a real motive in trying to max out the Wii as they aren't just selling a game but also their system. I wouldn't expect those outside of the Big N to waste too much resources trying to do the same. It the same with games on multiplatform.

@fazz,

It's not any person or companies fault that people will not listen. Some people do not want to be enlighten. The want to hang on to their belief at all cost.

Smidlee, how much do you really know about video game development? HD development cost more per art assets than Wii games do simply because the texture resolutions are much higher (don't confuse that with output resolution). You ask any developer (or at least the ones I've talked to) and they will tell the high resolution texture art is what has exponentially increased development costs.

A graphically high end Wii game will still cost less to develop than a graphically low to mid range HD game.