Kind of weird splitting up the Gameboy and the color version. If i'm not mistaken both versions could play both games just one in color.

A similar argument would be Wii passing PS2 super slim version sales rather than all of PS2.

or PSP outselling the original DS model (which probably already happened) and calling it a huge accomplishment.

No doubt the PSP is very successful, but when you go to the lengths of saying it's outselling a certain version of a certain handheld, that's stretching it.

On top of that i don't think it's entirely accurate to compare consoles / hand helds that came out decades ago to the modern market, there are more people and more gamers.

Given the strength of the Sony brand as a system seller, i'd say PSP is doing ok. I think a true accomplishment would be if the PSP outsells any gameboy system's software totals, let alone hardware. Fact of the matter is most people don't even use a PSP as a gaming machine.

LordTheNightKnight said: Kasz216 said: LordTheNightKnight said: konnichiwa said: LordTheNightKnight said: darthdevidem01 said: Without pokemon it will be a HUGE success for PSP as it has had no 10 million + sellers....ala pokemon Gran Turismo Portable might have been that, but Polyphony didn't seem interested in that. To be fair Polophony never said on witch PSP they would release GT as a launch game..PSP or PSP2 Why would being a launch game matter in this case? No GT game was a launch game, and 1 and 3 still broke 10 million. The fact is they don't seem interested in a GT game on the PSP at all. And besides, since the launch was front heavy anyway, it wouldn't have been that helpful to have GT as a launch game here. I wouldn't say they weren't interested so much as they have no time. I mean... it takes like one guy 6 months to make one freaking car for GT5... and those games have traditionally had 700+ Cars. How much do you think they are paying the graphics guys to do all that? I understand the first part, but what does paying have to do with it? If they don't have the time, it doesn't matter who is being paid to do what.

 Oh, i was just thinking to myself about how expensive a project GT5 must be.  

ph4nt said: Kind of weird splitting up the Gameboy and the color version. If i'm not mistaken both versions could play both games just one in color. A similar argument would be Wii passing PS2 super slim version sales rather than all of PS2. or PSP outselling the original DS model (which probably already happened) and calling it a huge accomplishment. No doubt the PSP is very successful, but when you go to the lengths of saying it's outselling a certain version of a certain handheld, that's stretching it. On top of that i don't think it's entirely accurate to compare consoles / hand helds that came out decades ago to the modern market, there are more people and more gamers. Given the strength of the Sony brand as a system seller, i'd say PSP is doing ok. I think a true accomplishment would be if the PSP outsells any gameboy system's software totals, let alone hardware. Fact of the matter is most people don't even use a PSP as a gaming machine.

You actually are mistaken. It was only the black GBC carts that could play on the GB. Most of the carts were clear and too big and required specs too high. They were actually designed to not even fit in the original GB slot. 

The GB and GBC are lumped together by Nintendo, but they are not the same system. So it is not the same as the PS2 and the PS2 slim. 

LordTheNightKnight said: ph4nt said: Kind of weird splitting up the Gameboy and the color version. If i'm not mistaken both versions could play both games just one in color. A similar argument would be Wii passing PS2 super slim version sales rather than all of PS2. or PSP outselling the original DS model (which probably already happened) and calling it a huge accomplishment. No doubt the PSP is very successful, but when you go to the lengths of saying it's outselling a certain version of a certain handheld, that's stretching it. On top of that i don't think it's entirely accurate to compare consoles / hand helds that came out decades ago to the modern market, there are more people and more gamers. Given the strength of the Sony brand as a system seller, i'd say PSP is doing ok. I think a true accomplishment would be if the PSP outsells any gameboy system's software totals, let alone hardware. Fact of the matter is most people don't even use a PSP as a gaming machine. You actually are mistaken. It was only the black GBC carts that could play on the GB. Most of the carts were clear and too big and required specs too high. They were actually designed to not even fit in the original GB slot. The GB and GBC are lumped together by Nintendo, but they are not the same system. So it is not the same as the PS2 and the PS2 slim.

I would say you're both half right.  The fact remains that many GBC games played on the GB, even if they were designed to do so.  It wasn't just a few games that were like that -- I heard it was 25%.  The GB/GBC situation is unique AFAIK.  I had a discussion on this subject a while ago.

My final comments in that thread (15760) were:  "I'm not trying to say that the GBC is a mere hardware revision of the GB like the Game Boy Pocket; my posts have made that clear.  But neither is it a totally new system like GB-->GBA-->DS.  It occupies a strange sort of middle ground that it may very well hold alone.  I just don't want it to be pigeonholed based on what we are more familiar with."

I don't think I'll dump all the arguments I made into this thread unless you request it, out of restraint.  It's only a one-page thread anyway. 

Well regardless, 50 million is the milestone I want to see for the PSP. It's already the most successful handheld outside of Nintendo. Yet selling 50 million would put it practically in the top tier of hit systems.

So far it's a pretty exclusive club, with just the NES, SNES, GB+GBC, GBA, PS1, PS2, and DS. That's it.

Ide be suprised it psp did and considering that the GBC was the least successfull gameboy too.

Sounds like it's best to give GBC Sega CD status.

Or Atari 7600 Status. Since I believe the manufacturing of 2600 games didn't stop with the release of the 7600.

Yup...I totally agree. I see the PSP having serious legs going into this year and next.

Sony needs to release more software for the console.

So far the only games that I really want to play on the console is:

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (own)
Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep
God of War: Chain of Olympus

That's about it....hope more software comes out :)

On topic, I agree with the OP. The PSP is almost guaranteed 50m at this point, and it'll be a huge victory for Sony, whatever their expectations may have been going into the handheld sector.

AND, 50m will not be where the PSP stops, either!

Ide be suprised it psp did and considering that the GBC was the least successfull gameboy too.

Yeah, Nintendo Killed the GBC off after two years because Bandi released WonderSwan Color, which was more powerful and was attracting developers away from the GBC. Square even ported Final Fantasy I - IV to th WonderSwan Color.

I do not know how much the PSP will sell throughout it's lifetime. That's left up to the market to decide. But the sales in the Western markets seem to be falling off slightly. However, if sales continue to fall, price cuts will help. Also continued software support will help the system.