rocketpig said: In some ways, MS has already "won". Thanks to Nintendo, Sony is seriously weakened throughout the world. Now MS can concentrate on profit and try to expand their market in every region, which appears to be happening. The 360 should finish with no less than 35-40m sales, up considerably from the Xbox and its 25m userbase. MS will also be launching first again next generation, giving them the ability to correct their mistakes from this generation and try to expand their market again. In the short term, though, there is little to be gained from them throwing money at the problem to weaken an already weak Sony when they can sit back and try to turn a profit on the 360. No matter what they do, the PS3 will probably end up passing the 360 in WW sales anyway.

 So powerful is the PS brand. Playstation name is basically videogames.

"MS are in a really weak position this year I think they're strategy this year would be to maintain their momentum and keep their competetivness , this isn't MS's best year for software."

2007 was an amazing year for MS software. 2008 could only have gone down. I do see your point on $100, as well as maintaining. However M$ isn't a "maintain" type of company. They are aggressive and probably want market share as much as profitability. Remember the $50 price cut comes right back in a Live account and a few game royalties. And if that consumer purchased the PS3 as their HD console, that's revenue M$ could probably not make up.

So, though I see your point, I don't believe M$ thinks that way. I do think Sony does. They have been TOO patient.

Wow imperial, your end of year Wii prediction is just insane! I hope that you were joking with it, otherwise you are just insane lol

LOL MS has already won NA... PS3 will never pass them here wii most liky well but they wont sell as near as much software here as the 360 plus your saying a week lineup of games this year no way they go t plenty of good hitters Gears 2 BK3 too human Halo War Fable 2 and many more still to come

Please provide a link to the Haze review you mention. I don' think Halo Wars is seeing the light of day in 2008.

Regarding the concept of price cuts to start sales, it is a bad idea. MS should hold firm in NA. They already offer a product in the price range of the Wii and well below their HD competitor. They need to increase the preceived value of a xbox purchase. The price cutting is not the best way to increase value or revenue. Also, Sony has already indicated that they have no interest in cutting the price in 2008. Lower shipment projections and their new focus on profitability.

Didn't you hear, MS won last month, they passed 10 million and that means they win. end of.

Imperial said: rocketpig said: In some ways, MS has already "won". Thanks to Nintendo, Sony is seriously weakened throughout the world. Now MS can concentrate on profit and try to expand their market in every region, which appears to be happening. The 360 should finish with no less than 35-40m sales, up considerably from the Xbox and its 25m userbase. MS will also be launching first again next generation, giving them the ability to correct their mistakes from this generation and try to expand their market again. In the short term, though, there is little to be gained from them throwing money at the problem to weaken an already weak Sony when they can sit back and try to turn a profit on the 360. No matter what they do, the PS3 will probably end up passing the 360 in WW sales anyway. rocketpig , you consistently proove yourself to be an MS fanboy , many of your posts are riddled with bias and incosistencies. Firslty MS hasn't "won" anything it's quite on the contrary , MS stand to loose the most from this generation ( in terms of profitability) . Where have you got the Idea that Sony are seriously "weakened" like the PS3 is the only console affected by the release of the Nintendo Wii. The only thing MS  can concentrate is avoiding irrelevancy with it being outsold on a WW basis week by week since Janauary , Japan's interest still at an absolute minimum and the PS3's strongest line-up of software since launch. If MS launch again first it'll no dought damage consumer confidence in the 360 , receive poor software support due to the high costs many developers will experience with new technology , hardware , software , trainning obligations etc. Also taking into consideration it'll damage MS's profitability further if the 360 doesn't have a decent life. What are you talking about an already weak Sony ? , Your coudln't be referring to the PSP that sold more than 20X the number of 360's in japan could you ? or the PS2 that continues selling like crazy years after it's launch ? or maybe the PS3 that's outselling the 360 on a weekly basis ?

Sony is not already weak? Sure PS3 outsells 360 in Japan every week, but PS3 + 360 barely = 10,000 units weekly. GTA the PS2 staple sells more on 360. Did you see NPD? Wii > Playstation Brand + MS Brand. How can even the biggest PS fanboy not recognize they are greatly weakened. If the Playstation brand = videogames, it isn't the PS3. The PSP is doing fine. This thread was about PS360, and clearly the PS3 is no PS2. Yet.This thread was asking if M$ could make sure it never happens.

Rock_on_2008 said: So powerful is the PS brand. Playstation name is basically videogames.

That used to be the case.  It's amazing how quickly that status has eroded from "Playstation" being in all media about games to suddenly, "wii" is in all media about games.  You now have songs and movies using the word "Wii" instead of "playstation". 

Squall_Leonhart said: Wow imperial, your end of year Wii prediction is just insane! I hope that you were joking with it, otherwise you are just insane lo

 
I'll leave you to guess...lol.

radioioRobert said: Imperial said: rocketpig said: In some ways, MS has already "won". Thanks to Nintendo, Sony is seriously weakened throughout the world. Now MS can concentrate on profit and try to expand their market in every region, which appears to be happening. The 360 should finish with no less than 35-40m sales, up considerably from the Xbox and its 25m userbase. MS will also be launching first again next generation, giving them the ability to correct their mistakes from this generation and try to expand their market again. In the short term, though, there is little to be gained from them throwing money at the problem to weaken an already weak Sony when they can sit back and try to turn a profit on the 360. No matter what they do, the PS3 will probably end up passing the 360 in WW sales anyway. rocketpig , you consistently proove yourself to be an MS fanboy , many of your posts are riddled with bias and incosistencies. Firslty MS hasn't "won" anything it's quite on the contrary , MS stand to loose the most from this generation ( in terms of profitability) . Where have you got the Idea that Sony are seriously "weakened" like the PS3 is the only console affected by the release of the Nintendo Wii. The only thing MS can concentrate is avoiding irrelevancy with it being outsold on a WW basis week by week since Janauary , Japan's interest still at an absolute minimum and the PS3's strongest line-up of software since launch. If MS launch again first it'll no dought damage consumer confidence in the 360 , receive poor software support due to the high costs many developers will experience with new technology , hardware , software , trainning obligations etc. Also taking into consideration it'll damage MS's profitability further if the 360 doesn't have a decent life. What are you talking about an already weak Sony ? , Your coudln't be referring to the PSP that sold more than 20X the number of 360's in japan could you ? or the PS2 that continues selling like crazy years after it's launch ? or maybe the PS3 that's outselling the 360 on a weekly basis ?   Sony is not already weak? Sure PS3 outsells 360 in Japan every week, but PS3 + 360 barely = 10,000 units weekly. GTA the PS2 staple sells more on 360. Did you see NPD? Wii > Playstation Brand + MS Brand. How can even the biggest PS fanboy not recognize they are greatly weakened. If the Playstation brand = videogames, it isn't the PS3. The PSP is doing fine. This thread was about PS360, and clearly the PS3 is no PS2. Yet.This thread was asking if M$ could make sure it never happens.

Your contradicting yourself , first your argue that the Wii sales are greater than the PS3's + 360's sales and then when the PSP is mentioned you argue it's a PS360 thread. Give up , please.