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Forums - General Discussion - Belief in God 'childish,' Jews not chosen people: Einstein letter

Strategyking92 on 13 May 2008
Edge112 said:
Moongoddess256 said:
Thats not defending religion, thats being Agnostic.

You know like, there's no way to confirm or deny the existence of god.


 I'm not religous but all I know is humans came from Evolution in Afira and migrated out into the world. The cosmic event: big bang made the universe. 


I am unsure about evolution, but that is the most ridiculous statement a person can make.

How can something come from nothing? it can't.  But, if there was a force that has always and forever will be here, then it had all intentions to create.



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Edge112 on 13 May 2008
ssj12 said:
Edge112 said:
Moongoddess256 said:
Thats not defending religion, thats being Agnostic.

You know like, there's no way to confirm or deny the existence of god.


I'm not religious but all I know is humans came from Evolution in Afira and migrated out into the world. The cosmic event: big bang made the universe.


I'll disagree with that, Evolution started in the oceans and then migrated onto the original land mass of Pangaea.

As for Religion, frankly Religion brings hope. Thats all it is, hope. This is why there have been religions and beliefs since the dawn of mankind. The belief that there is a greater existance, the belief of a better tomorrow, belief that you will forfill whatever purpose you believe your on the Earth to accomplish. This is really the true meaning to the existance of religions across the world. Nothing more, nothing less.

We will never know if there is a greater being as the real circle of life is through energy. The energy of the universe is constantly changing and moving. Ourlife is energy, when we die we pass that energy off into the universe to be used somewhere ese. No matter if its to grow a field of flowers or to help create a new star or black hole. This is what they cycle of life really is.


Yeah evolutuion in general is what i ment.

Kasz216 on 13 May 2008

Well that's weird... ahh actually reading the quote makes more sense.

He doesn't call all belief in god childish in said letter just some kinds.

Einstein himself believed in a sort of god, just not the kind of god most people believe in.



Edge112 on 13 May 2008
Kasz216 said:
Well that's weird... ahh actually reading the quote makes more sense.

He doesn't call all belief in god childish in said letter just some kinds.

Einstein himself believed in a sort of god, just not the kind of god most people believe in.

 the idea, not the actual "himself" only Einstein will ever know... kinda like what buddist people do. They don't belive in a god but.. idk.



LetsAllMakeBelieve on 13 May 2008

I have no problem with people who believe in god or religion, i just think its useless, as my man Noel Gallagher once sang "faith in any god is gonna burry us all"



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MontanaHatchet on 13 May 2008
highwaystar101 said:
Oh dear...

All I can say is thanks to the Mod who banned Etech7 otherwise he would be spammeing this thread no-end.

Oh, you are most welcome.

To be honest, you can read Einstein's biography. He was fed thoughts of Anti-Semitism during his childhood. Naturally, anyone of his intelligence will have grown their psyche to an extent that an all-powerful and all-knowing god seems childish. And if there's no god, there's no way that Jews could be the chosen people.

Try to keep this thread under control people.



 

 

MrBubbles on 14 May 2008

i dont know how anyone who can see israel at 60 years since its re-establishment and not see some sort of a divine hand at work. Logically there is no way they could have lasted so long surrounded by so many enemies.



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superchunk on 14 May 2008
MrBubbles said:
i dont know how anyone who can see israel at 60 years since its re-establishment and not see some sort of a divine hand at work. Logically there is no way they could have lasted so long surrounded by so many enemies.


You are so wrong on so many levels. This thread isn't about the history of zionism and Israel so I won't dive into it too much, but you really need to study your history. Simply put though, how can you consider an nation that was trained in European militaries, has always had a larger force than all of this foes combined, and has always had better weapons some kind of miracle? There is no divine hand keeping them alive, it is the fact they are, and have always been, better trained, equiped, and larger than anyone else in the region.

If you want to  continue this off topic discussion please pm me. However, I couldn't leave this fallacy in this thread untouched.



epsilon72 on 14 May 2008
superchunk said:
wow. That is pretty black and white in regards to his personal beliefs.

Meh, he might be regarded as one of the most intellegent person's to have ever walked the Earth, however, that doesn't mean he is 100% right in all matters.

Someone who bases their belief system solely off what someone else says is ignorant. Religion should be your personal relationship. Not someone else's.

Yes.

 

"Naturally, anyone of his intelligence will have grown their psyche to an extent that an all-powerful and all-knowing god seems childish."

Yeah, because anyone who believes in a supreme being must have a "limited" psyche. *rolls eyes*



Kasz216 on 14 May 2008
MrBubbles said:
i dont know how anyone who can see israel at 60 years since its re-establishment and not see some sort of a divine hand at work. Logically there is no way they could have lasted so long surrounded by so many enemies.

 The divine hand of US money.