Mario Kart succeeded in stopping even more Wii owners from going PS3. If it was released in it's own month it would have sold better but releasing it with GTA IV acted like a mini stop gap.

Wii didn't have to win the "GTA IV vs Mario Kart" battle. It just had to ensure it didn't loose horribly. Judging by hardware sales I think their strategy worked.

rocketpig said: LordTheNightKnight said: rocketpig said: tabsina said: I look forward to coming back to this thread at the end of the year Even then, MK will have a hell of a time catching GTA IV. What is it, 4.5m behind now? If it's not, it will be there soon because it won't start outselling GTA for a month or so. Personally, I don't think MK will ever pass GTA. GTA should keep selling for quite some time and the DLC later this year should give it another pretty substantial boost. How about, which ever game sells more, they're BOTH multimillion selling games (MK Wii has 3.7 ww already), so BOTH games are going to PRINT MONEY. That's the only real outcome of this pointless argument. I can live with that. When it comes down to it, I don't care which game sells more. They're both a lot of fun for very different reasons.

Only fanboys care which of any game sells better. Most fans just want their favorite games to sell well, as I'm hoping Okami sells well on the Wii (even though I have the PS2 version). 

Okami deserves better sales than it's getting on the Wii. It's unfortunate.

rocketpig said: Okami deserves better sales than it's getting on the Wii. It's unfortunate.

Well stores weren't stocking up. 

rocketpig said: Okami deserves better sales than it's getting on the Wii. It's unfortunate.

Well, Okami deserved better sales than it's getting on the PS2. But, that's life, nothing to do but move on.

Edit-But I did my part and bought the game.

Onimusha12 said: Dodece said: I would be seriously perturbed if Mario Kart outsold Grand Theft Auto IV. Had it done so it would be a prime indicator that this generation has gone to the imbeciles. The tragedy would be that massive. Grand Theft Auto is by far the superior product. Showing real care and love of gaming. Where as Mario Kart is yet another dumbed down clone of what was once a fantastic game. I wouldn't hold out high hopes that Mario Kart will ever surpass Grand Theft Auto either. The reality is that Rockstar is not going to cash in this generation like last generation pumping out a couple pseudo sequels in short order instead they will be producing expansions to the main game. Which means no self competition. Which means the game will probably outsell all of its predecessors. The title should easily surpass twenty five million copies sold. I suspect that Mario Kart for the Wii will tank out somewhere just over ten million copies world wide. Super Mario Galaxy has yet to break seven million and that is a game of exceptional excellence, and if you are betting on the casual crowd to recall Mario Kart in six months time you really are dreaming. They will be all over Nintendo's next big cash in off of an old franchise, but laid out in a party styling. The great news about the sales is that reality does seem to still possess some grasp on the market place. A good hard working developer delivered a fundamentally superior product won against a company who just delivered a cash in. That always gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. I love to see hard workers prosper. Says the person with Halo3 in their game library. Easy on the fanboyism there buddy. Why do you even see the two products as being direct competitors anyway? Neither is the same genre, nor does either appeal to the same specific audience. Maybe next time Nintendo will step up to the batting plate and put hookers and guns in MArio KArt Wii so it will finally be a franchise worthy of its "former glory" not that I'd believe you'd ever played a Mario Kart game in your life much ales this one.

You do realize that Halo 3 has a rating of 94 on Metacritic where as Mario Kart for the Wii actually has an 82. I wonder what this could mean. Perhaps Halo 3 is a high quality AAA title. While Mario Kart receives lower marks that make it a BB title. I hesitate to add the third B, because I doubt Nintendo actually put serious development effort behind this title. Why Halo 3 is valid to you in your disagreement is beyond me. How does owning Halo 3 and enjoying the multi player invalidate what I say. I think seven and a half million sold says something about the tastes not being niche. The titles are direct competition to one another. Your arguments to the effect that are not the same genre are ridiculous. Mario Kart has no proper genre. How many Kart racers do you actually see annually for all platforms. You just want the game to be permanently safe from comparison. Mario Kart is a hybrid or racing, and third person shooter. Grand Theft Auto shockingly is about racing around and shooting things in third person. The only relevant difference is the scope Rockstar was not rigid with their concept. While Nintendo lives, breathes, and breeds inside of the box. Basically were Niko nailed into his car most gamers would acknowledge the similarity. You say they do not appeal to the same specific audience, and that I have probably never played the series. You would be very wrong. I own Mario Kart 64, Double Dash, and rented the game for SNES only thirty times. I have probably spent well over five hundred hours playing Mario Kart. One of my favorite series of all time, but I am also not a blind fan. I know when Nintendo isn't giving out an honest effort. You know who likes Mario Kart people that like to play with other people. The difference so far this generation there are more games to play with other people, and a great many of them have greater value. They have a greater value, because the developer put in the time, and tried to think outside of the formula. Nintendo on the other hand has the rules of the game set into concrete. The series has not evolved as much as it has stayed disappointingly the same, and sadly Nintendo is going to be rewarded for their play it the same policy. Had you asked me ten years ago where the series would be right now. I would have told you over sixty tracks, a map builder, customizable rules, and vastly improved artificial intelligence. Instead its basically the same game it was ten years ago. With the same faults, no greater functionality, and Nintendo still being stingy with track allotment. The question I ask is why buy the new when it really is the same as the old. I do not hate the series, and I sure as hell do not hate the concept. What I dislike is Nintendo's contempt for the consumer. Where Rockstar is putting out a real effort to not only outdo themselves, but to outdo themselves spectacularly. Nintendo is more then happy to retread last generations game again with no drive to take the game to that next level. That is Mario Kart for the Wii is a cash in. Nintendo put in the bare minimum of effort required to match the previous offering, and traded on the name. They could have done much better, and you know they have the talent to do so.

As far as i know there isn't a video of all the glitches in Mario Kart. That's for the other game that had all of the hard work put into it. I'm one of the imbeciles that prefers Mario Kart to GTA. Thanks for all of the name calling and insulting comments. By the way, in GTA you still drive around and shoot people right? It's not like they have done anything to revolutionary there either. Is it? So would that make GTA 4 a cash in too?

^^^^
Why fix something that isnt broken??

Mario kart should alway be Mario kart that's what makes it so great.


Hmm I wonder how much money is cost to develop Mario Kart Wii ? GTA IV cost around 100 million $ or something?

 

dont even compare mario kart review score against Halo 3 or GTA IV's

everyone knows( atleast those who dont have their heads under the sand) that "hardcore" games pretty much always get better score then games like Kario Kart from game reviewers beacuse lets face it they pretty much only like "hardcore" games.

 

And calling Mario Kart Wii for a" cash in only game" is just plain wrong, the online play and the 16 new tracks shows that they actually made an effort.

amp316 said: As far as i know there isn't a video of all the glitches in Mario Kart. That's for the other game that had all of the hard work put into it. I'm one of the imbeciles that prefers Mario Kart to GTA. Thanks for all of the name calling and insulting comments. By the way, in GTA you still drive around and shoot people right? It's not like they have done anything to revolutionary there either. Is it? So would that make GTA 4 a cash in too?

They didn't update the graphics (aside from the N64 tracks), so that magically means Nintendo has contempt for the consumer. 

Mario kart games dont need Graphic upgrades unike other game series Mario Kart doesnt depend on graphics alone