First party rpgs don't count. Final Fantasy chrystal chronicles is more of it's own serires than a spin off. If you consider that a spinoff then so is Ff versus should be considered a spinoff too. Where is your link for blue dragon 2, spectral force 3 and operation darkness. Venetica is a wrpgs, Magna Carta is a Krpg. I see the wii to follow the path of the ds. It will have an equal balance of remakes, spinoffs, main series, and new ips. YOu say that the 360 gets existing franichses, but all I see is new ips. The ps3 is the only one getting existing franchises, and there aren't many.Oh in the case of JAPANESE role-playing games, japan is usuallly the most important region. So that is why I keep bringing it up. I guess we are at a stalemate for now.