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psrock on 05 May 2008
Soriku said:
psrock said:
Viper1 said:
psrock said:
i have a feeling your reason for being hype for the game has nothing to do with the game at all.
The same insinuation can be made for why PS3 owners are suddenly trying to downplay it.

 


i'm still right though. And i cant downplay a game i have never played.


If that's the case, then I guess no one should hype original IPs either because no one has played them before...

...Right?

first of all it's not new, and i can still see previous versions at gamespot, did you know that? i bet they wont interest you.

 



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DMeisterJ on 05 May 2008
sc94597 said:
This description sounds very similar to a WRPG. You 1st don't revolve around the story the same way the typical jrpg would , but like a typical WRPG. Then you are assigned quests which sound similar to the format most WRPGS take, you go out and do quests until you get stronger. Is it linear dmeister? WHich means do you have to follow the main story, or do you have mini quests. If it's not then , again Wrpg. I can't say for sure if it is, but if it is any way similar to how you discribed it , they should categorize is as a wrpg. I got a question. Could a japanese developer make a WRPG, and a Western developer make a Jrpg? I don't think the genres are suppose to tell where the game came from, but rather what type of gameplay you would see in it, based off the common in the region.  I might have to pick up the psp or ps2 versions. What game do you recommend me getting first.

 


There is no story.

None.  Zilp, Zilch, Nada. none.

There is no 'main story' and 'side quests'.

There are village quests, giving to you by the elder, guild quests, where you can increase your Hunter Rank, and then you can go treasure hunting, or training school, which I guess could be the side quests.

If you get one, I'd recomment Monster Hunter Freedom or Freedom 2 for PSP.

It'll be really hard to find the PS2 ones on the cheap.

The PSP ones should cost 20-30 bucks on Ebay or Amazon.



routsounmanman on 05 May 2008
sc94597 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Dmeister, what kind of game is it? It's RPG, right? Not a lot of sites have any info about it, and most sites are horrid anyway, but you seem fairly credible, so it would be nice if you wrote some info.

Definitely not an RPG.

Wikipeida says it's "hack-and-slash, adventure, and strategy" which pretty much sums it up.

Basically, there is no leveling system, aside from your Hunter Rank. Your Hunter rank goes up after you compete a set of quests, which consist of gathering quests (finding a certain amount of an item), Slaying quests (killing a certain number of weak monsters) and Hunting quests (Killing a certain monster, usually, very strong, thus where the strategy comes in). Defeating the big monsters is a huge undertaking. You must plan for it immensely. If it's a hot environment, bring cold drinks so that your health doesn't deplete, and vice versa. Bring Sonic bombs if it's an underground creature, so that the sound can make it come to the surface so that you can attack it. Bringing traps, so that you can trap it to capture it, or take a few swipes without it killing you. Then you choose what weapon to use, longswords, greatswords, guns, bowguns, dual swords, hunting horns, gun lances, and a few I can't remember. There's an immense layer of strategy that goes into even the simplest missions, since you never know which mosnters that you will encounter.

It's a VERY niche game. But if you like it, it's awesome.

That's the shortest way that I can sum-up Monster Hunter, but I've cut a lot of corners, and over-simplified everything, which MH doesn't do.

 

This description sounds very similar to a WRPG. You 1st don't revolve around the story the same way the typical jrpg would , but like a typical WRPG. Then you are assigned quests which sound similar to the format most WRPGS take, you go out and do quests until you get stronger. Is it linear dmeister? WHich means do you have to follow the main story, or do you have mini quests. If it's not then , again Wrpg. I can't say for sure if it is, but if it is any way similar to how you discribed it , they should categorize is as a wrpg. I got a question. Could a japanese developer make a WRPG, and a Western developer make a Jrpg? I don't think the genres are suppose to tell where the game came from, but rather what type of gameplay you would see in it, based off the common in the region. I might have to pick up the psp or ps2 versions. What game do you recommend me getting first.

 


OMG I'm outta this thread or I might kill someone! Go play a real WRPG like Baldur's Gate people!



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sc94597 on 05 May 2008
Soriku said:
sc94597 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Dmeister, what kind of game is it? It's RPG, right? Not a lot of sites have any info about it, and most sites are horrid anyway, but you seem fairly credible, so it would be nice if you wrote some info.

Definitely not an RPG.

Wikipeida says it's "hack-and-slash, adventure, and strategy" which pretty much sums it up.

Basically, there is no leveling system, aside from your Hunter Rank. Your Hunter rank goes up after you compete a set of quests, which consist of gathering quests (finding a certain amount of an item), Slaying quests (killing a certain number of weak monsters) and Hunting quests (Killing a certain monster, usually, very strong, thus where the strategy comes in). Defeating the big monsters is a huge undertaking. You must plan for it immensely. If it's a hot environment, bring cold drinks so that your health doesn't deplete, and vice versa. Bring Sonic bombs if it's an underground creature, so that the sound can make it come to the surface so that you can attack it. Bringing traps, so that you can trap it to capture it, or take a few swipes without it killing you. Then you choose what weapon to use, longswords, greatswords, guns, bowguns, dual swords, hunting horns, gun lances, and a few I can't remember. There's an immense layer of strategy that goes into even the simplest missions, since you never know which mosnters that you will encounter.

It's a VERY niche game. But if you like it, it's awesome.

That's the shortest way that I can sum-up Monster Hunter, but I've cut a lot of corners, and over-simplified everything, which MH doesn't do.

 

This description sounds very similar to a WRPG. You 1st don't revolve around the story the same way the typical jrpg would , but like a typical WRPG. Then you are assigned quests which sound similar to the format most WRPGS take, you go out and do quests until you get stronger. Is it linear dmeister? WHich means do you have to follow the main story, or do you have mini quests. If it's not then , again Wrpg. I can't say for sure if it is, but if it is any way similar to how you discribed it , they should categorize is as a wrpg. I got a question. Could a japanese developer make a WRPG, and a Western developer make a Jrpg? I don't think the genres are suppose to tell where the game came from, but rather what type of gameplay you would see in it, based off the common in the region. I might have to pick up the psp or ps2 versions. What game do you recommend me getting first.

 


You say,

"If it's not then , again Wrpg. I can't say for sure if it is, but if it is any way similar to how you discribed it , they should categorize is as a wrpg."

WRONG. WRPG means WESTERN Role-playing game. MH is clearly a JAPANESE game. In this case, we categorize it as an RPG...but a Japanese one which makes it a JRPG.

It doesn't have to play like FF to be an RPG...or a JRPG >_>

That was what the last part was for. If this is the case then there shouldn't be the genres Wrpg, and Jrpg. What if a japanese developer wanted to make a Wrpg. They can't do that because they are japanese?  A genre should be made on content rather than region. So if these genres aren't content then don't use them. I believe though, that the genres weren't made of region , but rather the usual content in that you see in that region.

@ Dmeister There is no story at all? You don't have a basis on the character you control in the game? Seems like a strange game. I'm definately getting it after I beat some of the dozens of games I have unstarted.

@ routsounmanman I said most wrpg not all. I have to get balder's gate also still. 

So many games to beat, and so many games to get. AH I need a schedule. Hopefully I could beat them over the summer.  

 



bobobologna on 05 May 2008
Soriku said:
psrock said:
Soriku said:
psrock said:
Viper1 said:
psrock said:
i have a feeling your reason for being hype for the game has nothing to do with the game at all.
The same insinuation can be made for why PS3 owners are suddenly trying to downplay it.

 


i'm still right though. And i cant downplay a game i have never played.


If that's the case, then I guess no one should hype original IPs either because no one has played them before...

...Right?

first of all it's not new, and i can still see previous versions at gamespot, did you know that? i bet they wont interest you.

 


That wasn't what you meant though. You meant I shouldn't hype a game I have never played and I said we shouldn't hype original IPs either because no one has played them before either...

No, I think he meant you shouldn't hype a game you know nothing about, especially when it's not a new franchise.

With new IPs, it's different because most people generally don't know how the game will turn out.  So all they have are gameplay videos, screenshots, and previews to go on.  With an established franchise, there's no reason to base your hype purely on a couple videos you've seen.



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psrock on 05 May 2008

i would advise you try one of the previous version first before anything, most people i know who've played that game hated it.

Also, i meant that your excistment has nothing to do Monster hunter 3 but which sytem it was coming on. \
Prove me wrong.



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sc94597 on 05 May 2008
Soriku said:
sc94597 said:
Soriku said:
sc94597 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Dmeister, what kind of game is it? It's RPG, right? Not a lot of sites have any info about it, and most sites are horrid anyway, but you seem fairly credible, so it would be nice if you wrote some info.

Definitely not an RPG.

Wikipeida says it's "hack-and-slash, adventure, and strategy" which pretty much sums it up.

Basically, there is no leveling system, aside from your Hunter Rank. Your Hunter rank goes up after you compete a set of quests, which consist of gathering quests (finding a certain amount of an item), Slaying quests (killing a certain number of weak monsters) and Hunting quests (Killing a certain monster, usually, very strong, thus where the strategy comes in). Defeating the big monsters is a huge undertaking. You must plan for it immensely. If it's a hot environment, bring cold drinks so that your health doesn't deplete, and vice versa. Bring Sonic bombs if it's an underground creature, so that the sound can make it come to the surface so that you can attack it. Bringing traps, so that you can trap it to capture it, or take a few swipes without it killing you. Then you choose what weapon to use, longswords, greatswords, guns, bowguns, dual swords, hunting horns, gun lances, and a few I can't remember. There's an immense layer of strategy that goes into even the simplest missions, since you never know which mosnters that you will encounter.

It's a VERY niche game. But if you like it, it's awesome.

That's the shortest way that I can sum-up Monster Hunter, but I've cut a lot of corners, and over-simplified everything, which MH doesn't do.

 

This description sounds very similar to a WRPG. You 1st don't revolve around the story the same way the typical jrpg would , but like a typical WRPG. Then you are assigned quests which sound similar to the format most WRPGS take, you go out and do quests until you get stronger. Is it linear dmeister? WHich means do you have to follow the main story, or do you have mini quests. If it's not then , again Wrpg. I can't say for sure if it is, but if it is any way similar to how you discribed it , they should categorize is as a wrpg. I got a question. Could a japanese developer make a WRPG, and a Western developer make a Jrpg? I don't think the genres are suppose to tell where the game came from, but rather what type of gameplay you would see in it, based off the common in the region. I might have to pick up the psp or ps2 versions. What game do you recommend me getting first.

 


You say,

"If it's not then , again Wrpg. I can't say for sure if it is, but if it is any way similar to how you discribed it , they should categorize is as a wrpg."

WRONG. WRPG means WESTERN Role-playing game. MH is clearly a JAPANESE game. In this case, we categorize it as an RPG...but a Japanese one which makes it a JRPG.

It doesn't have to play like FF to be an RPG...or a JRPG >_>

That was what the last part was for. If this is the case then there shouldn't be the genres Wrpg, and Jrpg. What if a japanese developer wanted to make a Wrpg. They can't do that because they are japanese? A genre should be made on content rather than region. So if these genres aren't content then don't use them. I believe though, that the genres weren't made of region , but rather the usual content in that you see in that region.

@ Dmeister There is no story at all? You don't have a basis on the character you control in the game? Seems like a strange game. I'm definately getting it after I beat some of the dozens of games I have unstarted.

@ routsounmanman I said most wrpg not all. I have to get balder's gate also still.

So many games to beat, and so many games to get. AH I need a schedule. Hopefully I could beat them over the summer.

 


You're kidding me right? JRPG and WRPG aren't their own genre. The J and W are extensions to identify which part of the world they were developed it. Japanese devs that pump out games IN JAPAN cannot make a WRPG becayse the game didn't come from the West.


 That's not the context most people use them in. Most people have expect something(s) from a Jrpg that they don't for a wrpg, and viceversa.  If what you say is true then you better get starting on correct people when they use it in that manner. 



DMeisterJ on 05 May 2008

@ SC

there is NO story, whatsoever period.



sc94597 on 05 May 2008

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=18826 this whole thread.



fkusumot on 05 May 2008
DMeisterJ said:
@ SC

there is NO story, whatsoever period.

 Yeah there is. Remember, you got knocked out and can't remember who you are. Then when you wake up you decide to become a Monster Hunter. You get this cute little pig as a pet. You've got a bunch of crazy cats in the kitchen always cooking up something new. You get a farm where you can go fishing and go bug hunting. And then you get this wild mission to go kill a Yang Kut Ku and you find out they're really fucking hard to kill (the first time). It goes on from there. Yep, that's the story.



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