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Words Of Wisdom said:
makingmusic476 said:
MGS4 better get the same treatment. :|

Some reviewers have played through near complete builds and have pegged it as one of the greatest gaming experiences of all time. If they're going to start dishing out scores based on hype, MGS4 better benefit from it as well.

I think reviewers should add a section in their review score breakdown called hype with an 80% weight...


 great idea, so for games like Hao 3 which would have a hype of 100% would really have a score of 0.7 due to the game being severely overhyped.



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riiiiight, if MGS4, or any other game that came out to be better GTAIV, I'm suuuure they won't get 10. *rolls eyes*

I'm starting to see people who would hate a game purely because it's good. I suppose ignorance can come from the most unexpected place.



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kingofwale said:
riiiiight, if MGS4, or any other game that came out to be better GTAIV, I'm suuuure they won't get 10. *rolls eyes*

I'm starting to see people who would hate a game purely because it's good. I suppose ignorance can come from the most unexpected place.

 no its called fanboyish for the consoles that doesnt have the game or they are to immature to just buy the game.



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ssj12 said:
kingofwale said:
riiiiight, if MGS4, or any other game that came out to be better GTAIV, I'm suuuure they won't get 10. *rolls eyes*

I'm starting to see people who would hate a game purely because it's good. I suppose ignorance can come from the most unexpected place.

no its called fanboyish for the consoles that doesnt have the game or they are to immature to just buy the game.


 

True.. but trust me, I'm no fan of WIi, and I dont' remember ONCE making a conspiracy theory about SMG getting a highscore while reviewers intentionally lowered marks for Orange Box, Bioshock or Uncharted so it can win GoTY

 

It's just both immature and down-right stupid. 



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

My god will this ever end, this is like the 5th thread this week arguing the same thing. Come on please stop already.



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rasone77 said:
My god will this ever end, this is like the 5th thread this week arguing the same thing. Come on please stop already.

Why do I suddenly feel like going and making a GTA4 thread?

 

Just kidding rasone. ^_^ 



Stockstar1138 said:
amakingmusic476 said:
MGS4 better get the same treatment. :|

Some reviewers have played through near complete builds and have pegged it as one of the greatest gaming experiences of all time. If they're going to start dishing out scores based on hype, MGS4 better benefit from it as well.

agreed 100% and MGS IV is the main concern of this post. I feel like MGS IV maybe the one that is truly the perfect 10, however, since a site just dished out a 10 for GTA IV, they will nitpick way worse than any other game @ MGS IV and give it a 9.5 or something. They'll say something like there was some low res textures, so graphically its only a 9.8/10, while they let all the graphical errors in GTA slide. MGS IV I feel like is going to get screwed in the ratings department over GTA. Then people will say things like MGS didn't get the scores like GTA did, so its not as good of a game.

Why does it matter so much if people think GTA IV is better than MGS IV because of average review score numbers? Is it going to change your perception of how much you like either game? We can't always get what we want from reviewers. Sometimes we're going to have to understand that our favorite games don't always match what reviewers think. It doesn't mean bias, or falling into the hype trap, it just means there's a difference of opinion. I personally think Alien Hominid was better than almost every game release last gen, and reviewers wholeheatedly disagreed. Not once has that changed my mind with how good I believe the game was. Just learn to live with it.

MGS IV probably wouldn't have scored better anyways because GTA series has been better scoring ever since it went third person. Take a look at review scores:

GTA III: 94.9%
GTA Vice City: 94.2%
GTA San Andreas: 95.2%

MGS: 93.5%
MGS 2: 94.8%
MGS 3: 91.5%

Is it really out of the realm of possibility that reviewers in general just prefer GTA over MGS by the smallest amount? Don't take this as my personal opinion. I'm a Metal Gear man all day long over GTA, but I still undestand if and why reviewers would rate GTA as high as they do.

 



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When I look at reviews I use what the reviewer says as my basis for how good the game is and I see the score as a recommendation to get the game. So instead of a 10 meaning the game is perfect (which is impossible so no game should get a 10) I see the 10 as the reviewers highest recommendation to get the game.



this game is great, just accept the fact that it deserves great reviews.



Onyxmeth said:

I'm starting to prefer EGM's letter grading myself. It spells out vey easily where average is because we are all familiar with how a lettering system works.

As for GTAIV and other games, you really shouldn't think of all games being comparable. When a reviewer is reviewing Fable 2, it should be in comparison to other WRPGs and not an action adventure game like GTA IV. Even if GTA IV ended up with the better score in the end, it doesn't matter because it would mean GTA was the pinnacle of action adventure, and Fable 2 was the king of WRPGs. In the end though, this really shouldn't matter all that much. So what if GTA IV becomes the greatest reviewed game of all time and never loses the position? It doesn't mean one has to think the same way. I myself felt both Soul Calibur and Ocarina of Time were not 10s to me, but I understand how a reviewer could come to the conclusion they were worth it, and I undestand how they can come to it in GTA IV also.  


Yea, but they will always revert back to GTA4 is better, trust me. MGS4 could be a 12 and have nothing to do with GTA but they'll mention its 'lack of polish' or some junk.

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