Pssh, that's just what you think.

Have fun with your... wait, what?

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on GTA. People are loving it, because it has good graphics, animations, sound - and is effectively a "virtual reality simulator" (mirrors the real world).

I loved OoT because it was a great "game" - fantastic gameplay & controls to boot. The graphics were great for the day, but really had little to do with it.

Its the standard two diametrically opposite views of gaming. Gran Turismo also falls in the first category, as a "real world simulator" - whereas Mario Kart falls into the 2nd.

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And here we have the "core" of the gaming religion conflict - and GTA vrs MK defines it perfectly really.

And yet, all research indicates that people today are no more happy than people 20 years ago, 50 years, or more.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7336336.stm
http://www.princeton.edu/~ceps/workingpapers/125krueger.pdf
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/1785

Absolutely every single piece of research I have ever seen -- ever -- indicates that we have not gotten happier as we have gotten richer, fatter and more comfortable. There are literally hundreds of studies done on this precise subject, and they have all reached effectively the same conclusion, in every one I've read.

In other words, you are wrong.

Here's more just to drive the point home:

http://us.oneworld.net/article/view/76457/1/
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DTI/is_n1_v26/ai_20263943
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/were-richer-but-not-happier/2006/09/15/1157827160795.html

 And for this bit of Princess Bride homage, we have win.

As for the clip, well, it is uber compressed Youtube audio.   Have you ever played ED?  If not, it comes highly regarded as a great piece of story and voice acting.

I've never even really heard of Eternal Darkness except in passing so I don't know much about it at all.

Lol, OoT is so much better it's not even funny.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll stick with No More Heroes over GTA IV. I love artistic flare, over evolutionized (not revolutionized) gameplay.

GTA is an evolving series, unlike Zelda, which is an artistic and revolutionary series. GTA must constantly tack on features, while we only have about 2 Zelda games per console generation that focus on creativity, art, innovation, and story.

Zelda is classic. GTA is just a core game that will outshine itself and be outshined by others.

Not to mention, EA Still wants to buy Take-Two, so the "evolving" scheme would become more frequent and intentional (can you imagine GTA 2009?).

Those elements you just mentioned are a direct result of the updated hardware of the Wii. Gravity/physics due in part to processing capabilities although it was a good design call to implement into the game involving space travel and planetoids. Naturally the game would have to implement Wiimote functionality in some form from the IR tracking to motion controls. It's entirely an issue of how well the developers implement it, as in natural feel, enhancing play/ease of use without being simply tacked on.  

As much as I enjoyed Ocarina, being that it was the only game on the N64 that really made it worth my owning one, the hardware was responsible for the jump to an open 3D world, which to me, was the most groundbreaking aspect of the game. The story itself was good enough to keep me playing through to the end (multiple times) and the game play made a near flawless transition from Link to the Past. Link to the Past was and remains a favorite (I will play this on a DS before playing Ocarina on VC), but the scope of Ocarina, due to the open world design, literally dwarfed it. 

It's the degree of immersion and the ability to create and maintain the illusion of being in the developer's game world that ultimately makes the game memorable. And in most cases, that is done by producing something that has not been previous seen or experienced. That's the game that is typically remembered as the "classic" over the years as opposed to those that attempt to follow the same formula, to different levels of success, sometimes even producing a more technically impressive and broader game during the same generation. And sometimes that follow up game is simply another game from the same series. They may be better games, but the groundbreaker is almost always the one that receives more acclaim.  

So sure; Ocarina of time belongs in the top ten for console games, I'll even argue top ten on all platforms, but best game of all time? That just boils down to a matter of opinion, which is pretty far from objective. It's not the greatest game I've ever played, and I probably approached triple digit hours playing it. 

Time will tell how GTAIV will be regarded in ten years. But it seems that the success of any given chapter of GTA should be dependent upon story/character/world, rather than just technical improvements due to new hardware although GTAIII was just like Ocarina in this respect. Ocarina I can still play. GTAIII I may play just to note the blaring technical differences between it and GTAIV. But I don't think the success of GTAIV lies in the technical aspects, which is why opinions won't 180 in ten years simply because games will be playing on superior hardware.  

All I have to read is the title to know this is a fail. Ya know I don't even want to hear the 2 compared cause it's a joke for one. And unfair for GTA IV to be compared to that.