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JRPGfan said:


However the counter argument is this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY16S5x3dHc

Motherf*?!ers... I was not aware of that. What a d*?! move by Nintendo. 



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I got a Switch 2 a few weeks ago.  So far I've only played, FF7 Remake and Rebirth (currently playing).  I plan to sell these games after I'm done, although I might replay Rebirth before Revelation is released and then sell it.

Basically GKCs suck.  I just consider all games in this format to be rentals.  There is no first party Switch 2 game that is a must play for me yet, so for me the system is more of a Switch Pro.  On top of that if there is a Switch 1 version of any game, I'd prefer to get that one since it will have a physical version instead of a GKC.

Basically the Switch 2 is a Switch Pro where you can rent games that require beefier hardware like the FF7 trilogy.



I dont buy GKCs, so I buy less third party games compared to the Switch. Bought the Switch 2 at launch and own 14 games total(4 Nintendo games and 10 third party) Would probably have twice as many if all games were true physicals. So I probably buy half as many games this time around.



Idk, I think the “convenience” factor is gone for digital downloads on this system. At this point, you’re only able to fit a few big games on your internal system memory, so I’d rather swap cards (which takes seconds) rather than go through decide which game I want to delete and then go and redownload them, which depending on internet speeds could take minutes to hours.



JRPGfan said:

The big reason people dislike them is because 10-15 years down the line, Nintendo might not have the download options ect.
Meaning the key card becomes juist plastic junk, at that point.

However the counter argument is this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY16S5x3dHc

The same thing happens with games that are on the Cartridge as well.
New firmware makes it so, you cannot play a offline game, if your system knows that there are patches to it, without updates.
Essentially bricking the game, if you cannot download the patch (which 20years down the line, you might not be able too).

*edit:
This is bad for game preservation.
Afaik, Xbox does the same thing.... I think only the PS5 of the 3 consoles actually values allowing you to play a game, where you have the intire game on disc, if in future say there is no way to download patches ect.

Doesn’t Nintendo ship out games with the current firmware update on the cart to update the system if needed? I’m pretty sure I’ve had that happen with Wii/Wii U/3DS/Switch games when I didn’t have internet. Also I think you can share system updates and game updates between Switches. Don’t quote me on any of that though. I’m not 100% sure lol.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

I got a Switch 2 a few weeks ago.  So far I've only played, FF7 Remake and Rebirth (currently playing).  I plan to sell these games after I'm done, although I might replay Rebirth before Revelation is released and then sell it.

Basically GKCs suck.  I just consider all games in this format to be rentals.  There is no first party Switch 2 game that is a must play for me yet, so for me the system is more of a Switch Pro.  On top of that if there is a Switch 1 version of any game, I'd prefer to get that one since it will have a physical version instead of a GKC.

Basically the Switch 2 is a Switch Pro where you can rent games that require beefier hardware like the FF7 trilogy.

Since when can you sell a rental?  The mere fact you can get the physical cart then sell it should put this a step above a straight digital game that you can only delete when you are done with it. It just seems odd that you would say something sucks that you have an option to re-sell rather than be stuck with.



JRPGfan said:
firebush03 said:

That's a solid counter argument if I've ever read one. Lol! (I'm assuming VGChartz is bugging out?)

Check it now :)

Something seems off with this video. I just tested my games including Xenoblade X. All work just fine without internet. 



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Leynos said:
JRPGfan said:

Check it now :)

Something seems off with this video. I just tested my games including Xenoblade X. All work just fine without internet. 

You need new firmware on your switch.
You need to have no patches or game installed.
Then first time you launch it, it req. a patch from the internet without which you cannot launch or play it.
This means that potentially way out in the future, if nintendo servers for switch 2 ever go down, and you uninstall a game that has a patch.
You could maybe run into issues.  (It doesn't mean, that a patched game and updated one, cannot run ever offline. If that is what you assumed?)

But like other's have pointed out, even to this day, nintendo still allows you to update and play Wii games.
Ei. if you connect a old nintendo Wii to the internet, you can still update games. 
Which means nintendo still supports the Wii with servers, even 20 years after it's launch.
Likely something like that will still happend with the Switch 2.

So potentially even in  the year 2045.... you could likely still update switch 2 games, even if nintendo closes switch shops ect.
(if they support it as long as they have the Wii)



JRPGfan said:
Leynos said:

Something seems off with this video. I just tested my games including Xenoblade X. All work just fine without internet. 

You need new firmware on your switch.
You need to have no patches or game installed.
Then first time you launch it, it req. a patch from the internet without which you cannot launch or play it.
This means that potentially way out in the future, if nintendo servers for switch 2 ever go down, and you uninstall a game that has a patch.
You could maybe run into issues.  (It doesn't mean, that a patched game and updated one, cannot run ever offline. If that is what you assumed?)

But like other's have pointed out, even to this day, nintendo still allows you to update and play Wii games.
Ei. if you connect a old nintendo Wii to the internet, you can still update games. 
Which means nintendo still supports the Wii with servers, even 20 years after it's launch.
Likely something like that will still happend with the Switch 2.

So potentially even in  the year 2045.... you could likely still update switch 2 games, even if nintendo closes switch shops ect.
(if they support it as long as they have the Wii)

My friend deleted all his ToTK data off his switch. Put it in and it worked fine.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Leynos said:
JRPGfan said:

You need new firmware on your switch.
You need to have no patches or game installed.
Then first time you launch it, it req. a patch from the internet without which you cannot launch or play it.
This means that potentially way out in the future, if nintendo servers for switch 2 ever go down, and you uninstall a game that has a patch.
You could maybe run into issues.  (It doesn't mean, that a patched game and updated one, cannot run ever offline. If that is what you assumed?)

But like other's have pointed out, even to this day, nintendo still allows you to update and play Wii games.
Ei. if you connect a old nintendo Wii to the internet, you can still update games. 
Which means nintendo still supports the Wii with servers, even 20 years after it's launch.
Likely something like that will still happend with the Switch 2.

So potentially even in  the year 2045.... you could likely still update switch 2 games, even if nintendo closes switch shops ect.
(if they support it as long as they have the Wii)

My friend deleted all his ToTK data off his switch. Put it in and it worked fine.

Not every game released by nintendo has updated patches.... ?
Maybe ToTK is one of those? I don't know...

The point is, some games do, as shown in the video.