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Yeah I do feel that people are somewhat justified in wanting to see what big Nintendo games are coming; unless you're into cosy/casual games their lineup of released/dated games this year is kinda barebones, as a Switch 2 owner for instance I don't care about Pokopia or Yoshi or Mario Tennis or Tomodachi Life, I'm more interested in something bigger and more epic.

People are allowed to feel that their current slate of games and their refusal to give a clear roadmap of what's coming is annoying and unsatisfying.

Last edited by curl-6 - 6 days ago

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curl-6 said:

Yeah I do feel that people are somewhat justified in wanting to see what big Nintendo games are coming; unless you're into cosy/casual games their lineup of released/dated games this year is kinda barebones, as a Switch 2 owner for instance I don't care about Pokopia or Yoshi or Mario Tennis or Tomodachi Life, I'm more interested in something bigger and more epic.

People are allowed to feel that their current slate of games and their refusal to give a clear roadmap of what's coming is annoying and unsatisfying.

Listen, I’m not against chasing after the “OMG SO HYPE!” fix that Nintendo is known to provide. There’s no shame in just saying you wanna feel “HYPED!” for a game that won’t be releasing for another six months— in fact, I would love to see what’s up with the rumored OoT remake. But I also have enough patience to not fixate on it… that’s the key point here.

You and I are in agreement, Curl. Do you see what I’m saying?

Last edited by firebush03 - 6 days ago

firebush03 said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah I do feel that people are somewhat justified in wanting to see what big Nintendo games are coming; unless you're into cosy/casual games their lineup of released/dated games this year is kinda barebones, as a Switch 2 owner for instance I don't care about Pokopia or Yoshi or Mario Tennis or Tomodachi Life, I'm more interested in something bigger and more epic.

People are allowed to feel that their current slate of games and their refusal to give a clear roadmap of what's coming is annoying and unsatisfying.

Listen, I’m not against chasing after the “OMG SO HYPE!” fix that Nintendo is known to provide. There’s no shame in just saying you wanna feel “HYPED!” for a game that won’t be releasing for another six months— in fact, I would love to see what’s up with the rumored OoT remake. But I also have enough patience to not fixate on it… that’s the key point here.

You and I are in agreement, Curl. Do you see what I’m saying?

There's nothing wrong with feeling excited for upcoming games. It's not even a matter of wanting to see games that are 6 months away either, although there's nothing wrong with that either, at this point we don't even know what will be releasing in 2 months, the schedule is blank beyond next month.

This in turn creates the impression, inaccurate or not, that the system does not have big games on the way. For some people who just spent $450 on a Switch 2, that's annoying and disappointing.

At this point, Nintendo's secrecy is starting to diminish a lot of people's excitement for Switch 2, and I question the wisdom of this strategy.



curl-6 said:

There's nothing wrong with feeling excited for upcoming games. It's not even a matter of wanting to see games that are 6 months away either, although there's nothing wrong with that either, at this point we don't even know what will be releasing in 2 months, the schedule is blank beyond next month.

This in turn creates the impression, inaccurate or not, that the system does not have big games on the way. For some people who just spent $450 on a Switch 2, that's annoying and disappointing.

At this point, Nintendo's secrecy is starting to diminish a lot of people's excitement for Switch 2, and I question the wisdom of this strategy.

Curl, to reword my previous post: I agree, it is fine to want to know what’s coming. What I’m talking on are those who are so fixated on that “HYPE!” fix that their sites lock onto a “dull state of gaming” when they can’t see the dozens of highly acclaimed titles releasing on a weekly basis.

Do you not agree with this? It seems like you’re fighting a ghost here— we’ve already had this discussion before where I said this exact thing.



firebush03 said:
curl-6 said:

There's nothing wrong with feeling excited for upcoming games. It's not even a matter of wanting to see games that are 6 months away either, although there's nothing wrong with that either, at this point we don't even know what will be releasing in 2 months, the schedule is blank beyond next month.

This in turn creates the impression, inaccurate or not, that the system does not have big games on the way. For some people who just spent $450 on a Switch 2, that's annoying and disappointing.

At this point, Nintendo's secrecy is starting to diminish a lot of people's excitement for Switch 2, and I question the wisdom of this strategy.

Curl, to reword my previous post: I agree, it is fine to want to know what’s coming. What I’m talking on are those who are so fixated on that “HYPE!” fix that their sites lock onto a “dull state of gaming” when they can’t see the dozens of highly acclaimed titles releasing on a weekly basis.

Do you not agree with this? You’re fighting a ghost here.

It depends on who we are talking about that's saying it I think; if we're talking about Youtubers, then they're just riding the grifter/outrage bandwagon to get clicks and hence revenue.

If we're talking about say commenters on social media, a lot of that is just people being trolls.

Who is it we're mostly talking in this case?



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curl-6 said:

It depends on who we are talking about that's saying it I think; if we're talking about Youtubers, then they're just riding the grifter/outrage bandwagon to get clicks and hence revenue.

If we're talking about say commenters on social media, a lot of that is just people being trolls.

Who is it we're mostly talking in this case?

I’m not referring to the grifter— I’ve gotten to a point where I just tune them out. I’m referring to users on forum pages and social media who obsessively fixate on unreleased/unrevealed game(s). For instance, to clarify how this isn’t solely a Nintendo issue: Mina the Hollower. Fans of this games are becoming unruly because the YGC hasn’t been pumping out updates on their upcoming release. YGC devs have come out stating the reason for their silence being that they when they have stuff to share, and they are ready to share it, then that it what they will do… but people want to know RIGHT NOW. And because they aren’t updating as we speak, there’s a massive wave of theories and sensationalism overwhelming plaguing discourse of this game (which is being developed by a small indie studio, mind you).

Another example: People who complain that gaming today is scraps and trash compared to the GOAT’d PS3/XB360 generation, when big games were releasing weekly!!… when, well, this stream of games never stopped. In fact, I’d argue the variety in genre, pricing, and scale of dev studios (i.e. it’s no longer the big names like Acti nor Ubi pumping out the best games, but also tons of indie studios) has made for a generation which far outclasses all others by a wide margin.

Another example: People who obsessively await the latest Playstation State of Play, only to complain because SpiderMan 3 wasn’t revealed alongside God of War 2018 (Part III), i.e. because they didn’t get their MEGA HYPE game.

I’m not sure if these are the best examples though TBH… but hopefully it makes a little more clear what I’m talking about. I’m happy to give more examples if need be.



firebush03 said:
curl-6 said:

It depends on who we are talking about that's saying it I think; if we're talking about Youtubers, then they're just riding the grifter/outrage bandwagon to get clicks and hence revenue.

If we're talking about say commenters on social media, a lot of that is just people being trolls.

Who is it we're mostly talking in this case?

I’m not referring to the grifter— I’ve gotten to a point where I just tune them out. I’m referring to users on forum pages and social media who obsessively fixate on unreleased/unrevealed game(s). For instance, to clarify how this isn’t solely a Nintendo issue: Mina the Hollower. Fans of this games are becoming unruly because the YGC hasn’t been pumping out updates on their upcoming release. YGC devs have come out stating the reason for their silence being that they when they have stuff to share, and they are ready to share it, then that it what they will do… but people want to know RIGHT NOW. And because they aren’t updating as we speak, there’s a massive wave of theories and sensationalism overwhelming plaguing discourse of this game (which is being developed by a small indie studio, mind you).

Another example: People who complain that gaming today is scraps and trash compared to the GOAT’d PS3/XB360 generation, when big games were releasing weekly!!… when, well, this stream of games never stopped. In fact, I’d argue the variety in genre, pricing, and scale of dev studios (i.e. it’s no longer the big names like Acti nor Ubi pumping out the best games, but also tons of indie studios) has made for a generation which far outclasses all others by a wide margin.

Another example: People who obsessively await the latest Playstation State of Play, only to complain because SpiderMan 3 wasn’t revealed alongside God of War 2018 (Part III), i.e. because they didn’t get their MEGA HYPE game.

I’m not sure if these are the best examples though TBH… but hopefully it makes a little more clear what I’m talking about. I’m happy to give more examples if need be.

If you are referring to people who goes to State of Play / Nintendo Direct / Xbox Showcases, and after the event, they post things like:

"That's it????"

"Disappointing!!"

"Where's X game???"

Those people are just trolls, and are most likely posting those to make fun out of the developers. Most of those don't even care about what was actually displayed.



firebush03 said:
curl-6 said:

It depends on who we are talking about that's saying it I think; if we're talking about Youtubers, then they're just riding the grifter/outrage bandwagon to get clicks and hence revenue.

If we're talking about say commenters on social media, a lot of that is just people being trolls.

Who is it we're mostly talking in this case?

I’m not referring to the grifter— I’ve gotten to a point where I just tune them out. I’m referring to users on forum pages and social media who obsessively fixate on unreleased/unrevealed game(s). For instance, to clarify how this isn’t solely a Nintendo issue: Mina the Hollower. Fans of this games are becoming unruly because the YGC hasn’t been pumping out updates on their upcoming release. YGC devs have come out stating the reason for their silence being that they when they have stuff to share, and they are ready to share it, then that it what they will do… but people want to know RIGHT NOW. And because they aren’t updating as we speak, there’s a massive wave of theories and sensationalism overwhelming plaguing discourse of this game (which is being developed by a small indie studio, mind you).

Another example: People who complain that gaming today is scraps and trash compared to the GOAT’d PS3/XB360 generation, when big games were releasing weekly!!… when, well, this stream of games never stopped. In fact, I’d argue the variety in genre, pricing, and scale of dev studios (i.e. it’s no longer the big names like Acti nor Ubi pumping out the best games, but also tons of indie studios) has made for a generation which far outclasses all others by a wide margin.

Another example: People who obsessively await the latest Playstation State of Play, only to complain because SpiderMan 3 wasn’t revealed alongside God of War 2018 (Part III), i.e. because they didn’t get their MEGA HYPE game.

I’m not sure if these are the best examples though TBH… but hopefully it makes a little more clear what I’m talking about. I’m happy to give more examples if need be.

I think the main difference between now and the PS3/360 era is that in the latter, big games tended to take like 2-3 years to make, whereas nowadays they can take 6+ years which understandably makes the long waits frustrating.

Naughty Dog for instance released 4 games on the PS3, but haven't released a single new game on the PS5 after more than half a decade.

Big games in people's favourite series just came more often back then and I think people miss that.



 curl-6 said:

I think the main difference between now and the PS3/360 era is that in the latter, big games tended to take like 2-3 years to make, whereas nowadays they can take 6+ years which understandably makes the long waits frustrating.

Naughty Dog for instance released 4 games on the PS3, but haven't released a single new game on the PS5 after more than half a decade.

Big games in people's favourite series just came more often back then and I think people miss that.

I agree… though that’s kinda besides the point lol. Yeah it’d be nice if we could get those big AAA games more frequently, but the people who complain about the overall state of the industry based solely according to the metric of AAA developers just comes off a tad bit silly to me. The industry has grown so much since then.



firebush03 said:
 curl-6 said:

I think the main difference between now and the PS3/360 era is that in the latter, big games tended to take like 2-3 years to make, whereas nowadays they can take 6+ years which understandably makes the long waits frustrating.

Naughty Dog for instance released 4 games on the PS3, but haven't released a single new game on the PS5 after more than half a decade.

Big games in people's favourite series just came more often back then and I think people miss that.

I agree… though that’s kinda besides the point lol. Yeah it’d be nice if we could get those big AAA games more frequently, but the people who complain about the overall state of the industry based solely according to the metric of AAA developers just comes off a tad bit silly to me. The industry has grown so much since then.

Not just AAA, but specifically Western AAA; while this sector has indeed been struggling, Asian AAA is mostly doing just fine.

Anyway, I figure it's best to just ignore those who just complain constantly along with the grifters. Constructive criticism is fine, but if all people who is moan then best to just ignore them I reckon.