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I guess Prime 4 will remain the only Switch 2 game I own until at least 2027.



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Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

If people want to get hyped up that's their choice, they can decide for themselves whether they want to risk being let down.

We can't rule this out as misinformation at this point because it could be true.

This kind of reasoning is literally why there are people who believe that it takes 7 years for gum to digest or that cold weather itself makes you sick.
It's also why there are people who believe the Earth is flat.

Because they are "allowed to decide for themselves" without being challenged or questioned... They are essentially allowed to exist in an echo-chamber, reverberating the same garbage to reinforce their already established confirmation biases with other like-minded individuals.

If we cannot rule it out as misinformation, then the claim should be dumped in the bin... Until such a time there is evidence to support it. And not the reverse.
It's called the "Burden of proof" which is more important than ever.

And no. I won't stop challenging these "leakers" who are just speculators/propagators of rumor... Because people are stupid, because people actually 100% believe it, rather than think of it as a mere "possibility" that should be taken with a grain of salt... And if this thread is any example of that, there are people who are taking these rumors as real, rather than with skepticism... And that is truly disheartening in the information age.

No harm whatsoever is being done by people speculating on an Ocarina of Time remake or a new Starfox game. 

We are literally just talking about video games here, it's not that serious.



Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

If people want to get hyped up that's their choice, they can decide for themselves whether they want to risk being let down.

We can't rule this out as misinformation at this point because it could be true.

This kind of reasoning is literally why there are people who believe that it takes 7 years for gum to digest or that cold weather itself makes you sick.
It's also why there are people who believe the Earth is flat.

Because they are "allowed to decide for themselves" without being challenged or questioned... They are essentially allowed to exist in an echo-chamber, reverberating the same garbage to reinforce their already established confirmation biases with other like-minded individuals.

If we cannot rule it out as misinformation, then the claim should be dumped in the bin... Until such a time there is evidence to support it. And not the reverse.
It's called the "Burden of proof" which is more important than ever.

And no. I won't stop challenging these "leakers" who are just speculators/propagators of rumor... Because people are stupid, because people actually 100% believe it, rather than think of it as a mere "possibility" that should be taken with a grain of salt... And if this thread is any example of that, there are people who are taking these rumors as real, rather than with skepticism... And that is truly disheartening in the information age.

I don't even care but if you think Nate is wrong, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bet against it. 

Nate gets the benefit of the doubt because he's been correct many, many, many times before. This isn't some guy that just has gotten 1 or 2 things correct. 

Nintendo isn't that easy to predict because "Nintendo" isn't even the same company as 10 years ago, next person to bring up the Wii should get slapped upside the head. That entire management team is basically not even with the company anymore, that was 20 plus freaking years ago. Even from 2015, the board of directors of 2025 is almost entirely different. Miyamoto is still there but he's basically semi-retired from gaming at this point and just works on the movies and theme parks. 

The "I know Nintendo because I know about a system called Wii" types, lol ... they're the most clueless of all, they've gotten almost everything wrong on every aspect of the current Switch 2 system because they don't understand the new people making decisions at Nintendo aren't the same people, the old board of directors is virtually gone. They new people are going to do things differently and come from a totally different generation at that. I'd rather listen to Nate  than the "I know a thing or two about Nintendo" crowd, lol. 

The modern management at Nintendo probably has more in common with Sony's Playstation division today than the Nintendo of 20-25 years ago under Iwata that was going blue ocean trying to make hardware appeal to soccer moms. 

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All I know is nate was wrong about the pro, wind waker and twilight. So, we shall see.

In terms of S2 hardware predictions, lot of us got many things right.  I recall saying it would max at 112 gb/s which would impede resolution and fps...  guess what, memory bandwidth is 102 gb/s and is a bottleneck for resolution and fps...  the idea that the forum was clueless about the S2 is a false narrative.  Most people here, with their predictions, where within 10 to 20% of S2 performance.

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Chrkeller said:

All I know is nate was wrong about the pro, wind waker and twilight. So, we shall see.

In terms of S2 hardware predictions, lot of us got many things right.  I recall saying it would max at 112 gb/s which would impede resolution and fps...  guess what, memory bandwidth is 102 gb/s and is a bottleneck for resolution and fps...  the idea that the forum was clueless about the S2 is a false narrative.  Most people here, with their predictions, where within 10 to 20% of S2 performance.

Most people changed their projections on it every 3 months, most people here didn't know shit and a lot of people were playing up the "it's on 8nm!!!! Hahahaha! Doommmmed to be under powered!!! Nintendo never learns!" and were ready to start crowing about Switch 2's abilities with Star Wars Outlaws "looking rough! Of course it can't handle a big boy PS5 open world game!!" right up until the game shipped and then that delivered a massive gut punch to that crowd and left them speechless. 

Nate has an actual track record of probably at this point 20+ thing's he called including the exact reveal date of the Switch 2. Sorry but he has way more credibility than anyone here. 

Most people here don't even know who's in charge of Nintendo at this point, they know vaguely it's some new president guy named Furukawa but they're operating under the impression that it's more or less still the same management team that was there even 10 years ago, when it's totally not. They don't even know what company they're even talking about at this point. The entire board of directors is almost entirely different and much younger today, the hardware team is different, etc. etc.. Miyamoto is basically the only real old fart OG still around at Nintendo still on the board of directors and he's basically just there to oversee the movies and theme parks at this point.

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Soundwave said:
Chrkeller said:

All I know is nate was wrong about the pro, wind waker and twilight. So, we shall see.

In terms of S2 hardware predictions, lot of us got many things right.  I recall saying it would max at 112 gb/s which would impede resolution and fps...  guess what, memory bandwidth is 102 gb/s and is a bottleneck for resolution and fps...  the idea that the forum was clueless about the S2 is a false narrative.  Most people here, with their predictions, where within 10 to 20% of S2 performance.

Most people changed their projections on it every 3 months, most people here didn't know shit and a lot of people were playing up the "it's on 8nm!!!! Hahahaha! Doommmmed to be under powered!!! Nintendo never learns!" and were ready to start crowing about Switch 2's abilities with Star Wars Outlaws "looking rough! Of course it can't handle a big boy PS5 open world game!!" right up until the game shipped and then that delivered a massive gut punch to that crowd and left them speechless. 

Nate has an actual track record of probably at this point 20+ thing's he called including the exact reveal date of the Switch 2. Sorry but he has way more credibility than anyone here. 

Most people here don't even know who's in charge of Nintendo at this point, they know vaguely it's some new president guy named Furukawa but they're operating under the impression that it's more or less still the same management team that was there even 10 years ago, when it's totally not. They don't even know what company they're even talking about at this point. The entire board of directors is almost entirely different and much younger today, the hardware team is different, etc. etc.. Miyamoto is basically the only real old fart OG still around at Nintendo still on the board of directors and he's basically just there to oversee the movies and theme parks at this point.

I would ask for evidence of said claims, but we both know you dont have any.  Just more shadow boxing.  

Overall it is a silly claim.  RE9 is brand new and runs on a gtx 1660, which is 2019 tech.  Surivor was ported to the base ps4.  Steam Deck plays 95% of Steam games.  Nobody is surprised the S2 can play modern games.  It was always a question of fidelity and performance.

But I am sure you will come back with more imaginative "counter arguments."  

Enjoy, I am going to finish up Spiderman 2 on PC.  



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Chrkeller said:
Soundwave said:

Most people changed their projections on it every 3 months, most people here didn't know shit and a lot of people were playing up the "it's on 8nm!!!! Hahahaha! Doommmmed to be under powered!!! Nintendo never learns!" and were ready to start crowing about Switch 2's abilities with Star Wars Outlaws "looking rough! Of course it can't handle a big boy PS5 open world game!!" right up until the game shipped and then that delivered a massive gut punch to that crowd and left them speechless. 

Nate has an actual track record of probably at this point 20+ thing's he called including the exact reveal date of the Switch 2. Sorry but he has way more credibility than anyone here. 

Most people here don't even know who's in charge of Nintendo at this point, they know vaguely it's some new president guy named Furukawa but they're operating under the impression that it's more or less still the same management team that was there even 10 years ago, when it's totally not. They don't even know what company they're even talking about at this point. The entire board of directors is almost entirely different and much younger today, the hardware team is different, etc. etc.. Miyamoto is basically the only real old fart OG still around at Nintendo still on the board of directors and he's basically just there to oversee the movies and theme parks at this point.

Nobody is surprised the S2 can play modern games.  It was always a question of fidelity and performance.

You could have saved yourself probably about 3-4 years of posting "Switch 2 is just a PS4!" hundreds of times by realizing that back then. 



Soundwave said:
Chrkeller said:

Nobody is surprised the S2 can play modern games.  It was always a question of fidelity and performance.

You could have saved yourself probably about 3-4 years of posting "Switch 2 is just a PS4!" hundreds of times by realizing that back then. 

Actually, my prediction was ps4 to ps4 pro.  And it sits closer to the pro than ps5, so the prediction was quite accurate.

"It's essentially the PS5 Intergrade version but running with visual settings closer to PS4 - plus the use of DLSS as an AA technique and upscaler"

The S2 and ps4 pro is a good comp.

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And if you want to argue the S2 is a bit above some predictions, that is fair.  The S2 is a good 20% higher than I expected.  But you need to stop implying people were wildly off base.  People were damn close and 20% is still same hardware tier.  

Same goes for price.  Many, myself included, predicted $400, and it came out at $450..  yet you run around acting like our predictions were crazy low.  $400 isnt far from the actual $450.

You need to relax and give people some credit.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - 2 days ago

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curl-6 said:

No harm whatsoever is being done by people speculating on an Ocarina of Time remake or a new Starfox game. 

We are literally just talking about video games here, it's not that serious.

The harm is propagating rumors as fact. Rather than propagating real facts as facts.
Which has been demonstrably demonstrated in this thread.

Soundwave said:

I don't even care but if you think Nate is wrong, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bet against it. 

You are either not reading my statements or not understanding them in it's intended context.

It literally doesn't matter if he is correct or incorrect in this instance, that's not even the god damn issue.

Soundwave said:

Nate gets the benefit of the doubt because he's been correct many, many, many times before. This isn't some guy that just has gotten 1 or 2 things correct. 

The fact he has gotten anything incorrect in the past, should put a question mark on all claims going forth.

Soundwave said:

Nintendo isn't that easy to predict because "Nintendo" isn't even the same company as 10 years ago, next person to bring up the Wii should get slapped upside the head. That entire management team is basically not even with the company anymore, that was 20 plus freaking years ago. Even from 2015, the board of directors of 2025 is almost entirely different. Miyamoto is still there but he's basically semi-retired from gaming at this point and just works on the movies and theme parks. 

No. Nintendo is very easy to predict.

Everyone and their dog knows that Nintendo will follow up with a "safe" successor once they have a huge success.

Case in point:
1) NES with the SNES. 
2) Gameboy with Gameboy Advance.
3) Nintendo DS with 3DS.
4) Wii with WiiU.
5) Switch with Switch 2.

There is a trend there. A predictable one. Companies are generally adverse to risk unless they need to reverse a decline.

Nintendo just happens to be stupidly good at reinventing itself after every decline, which has kept them relevant.

Soundwave said:

The modern management at Nintendo probably has more in common with Sony's Playstation division today than the Nintendo of 20-25 years ago under Iwata that was going blue ocean trying to make hardware appeal to soccer moms. 

Nintendo still runs it's own course.
But they are bound by the confines of technology trajectories more than ever as they aren't relying on fully custom and alien silicon designs.

And that makes predicting their releases far easier.

Chrkeller said:

All I know is nate was wrong about the pro, wind waker and twilight. So, we shall see.

Wrong about:
1) Pro.
2) Wind Waker and Twilight.
3) Kirby Planet Robobot HD.
4) Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War remake for Switch 1.
5) Metroid Prime Trilogy HD in 2021.
6) Metroid Prime 1 HD was supposed to release in 2022, dropped in 2023.
7) Halo Infinite Multiplayer he said was dropping in November 15 2021. It came in December 2021.
8) Nate said Final Fantasy Rebirth was coming for Switch in 2023, came out in 2024.

And that's what I could be bothered researching.

I am not saying he doesn't get more shit right, than wrong.

But he does get shit wrong.

And if he gets shit wrong, it means we take it with a grain of salt, not worship him unless his statements can be verified with other independent sources, nintendo or there is empirical evidence.

Chrkeller said:

In terms of S2 hardware predictions, lot of us got many things right.  I recall saying it would max at 112 gb/s which would impede resolution and fps...  guess what, memory bandwidth is 102 gb/s and is a bottleneck for resolution and fps...  the idea that the forum was clueless about the S2 is a false narrative.  Most people here, with their predictions, where within 10 to 20% of S2 performance.

Many people in the forum were clueless about the Switch 2's hardware.

Again, I made hardware predictions about the Switch 2 back in 2017, which were correct. (Tegra Orin)

That's not from a source of information given to me, that was using common sense of what would be available and viable on the market.
Nor does it discount other claims other people got right.

We were speculating. We are speculators. We got some stuff right. Others got stuff wrong.
None of us (Myself included) should have their statements about our hardware predictions taken as gospel until evidence corroborated them. (I.E. Nintendo unveiling or from engineers)

And that same standard needs to be applied to all sources of rumors, speculations and leaks.
It is actually okay to say "we don't know" about something.








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Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

No harm whatsoever is being done by people speculating on an Ocarina of Time remake or a new Starfox game. 

We are literally just talking about video games here, it's not that serious.

The harm is propagating rumors as fact. Rather than propagating real facts as facts.
Which has been demonstrably demonstrated in this thread

Who is propagating rumors as fact? I don't see anybody saying it's a fact.