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Chinese plan to have 9 aircraft carriers by 2035 and fully support Russian invasion on Europe.
Peaceful my ass, U.S. is doing well trying to counter-act.



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Davy said:

Chinese plan to have 9 aircraft carriers by 2035 and fully support Russian invasion on Europe.
Peaceful my ass, U.S. is doing well trying to counter-act.

Doesny matter, the us cant output  what china does, they WILL be world leaders, its a fact.

Us builds 1 carrier, china builds 3.

Last edited by xl-klaudkil - 2 days ago

 

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Women and children are the property of men with limited rights.
The value of a woman’s life is one-half the value of a man’s life.
The testimony of one man is equal to the testimony of two women.
Daughters get half the inheritance that sons get.
A woman does not have the right to divorce her husband.
A man can divorce his wife any time he wishes, even without her knowledge.
Men are allowed to marry four “permanent” wives and as many temporary wives as they want.
Women cannot travel, work, go to school, or even leave the house without the permission of their husband or father.
A woman must live where her husband decides.
Mothers do not get custody of their children after sons reach the age of two and daughters reach the age of seven, in the case of divorce.
Children belong to their father, as soon as they are born.
Husbands can take children away from their mother and have another woman raise the child.
A widow does not get custody of her children after the death of her husband. Paternal grandparents or paternal relatives get custody of the children, and the mother has no right of visitation.
If a father does not have any family, a local cleric takes custody of the woman’s children, as well as the family assets and possessions.
The age of criminal responsibility, under article 1210(1) of Iran’s Civil Code, is set at fifteen for boys, but only nine for girls.
The law sanctions marriage of girls at the age of thirteen, but gives fathers the right to sell their daughters at the age of nine.
In the case of inheritance, an older widow with grown children only gets one-eighth of the value of a dwelling.

*I find liberals defending certain countries amusing*

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A man who sees his wife commit adultery may be exempted some punishment if he kills her. There are some exemptions for men who kill children or grandchildren, creating protection for "honour killings" of women and girls accused of sexual misconduct.

Last edited by Chrkeller - 2 days ago

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Davy said:

Don't expect U.S.A to surrender easily the world leadership on the Chinese Communists.
They try to control energy resources now that Russia stopped exporting Gas and Oil to Europe.
Venezuela and Iran will be controlled by U.S.

And to compensate for this, many will now flock back to Russian oil to cover their supply lines.

Trump doing the bidding of Putin yet again.



Hardstuck-Platinum said:

No-one has been killed by the government in USA just for singing and dancing. In Iran they have because it's a strict Islamic rule and singing + dancing is Haram in Islam. No-one has been hung from cranes in the USA, but in Iran they have by their tens of thousands. They are not remotely comparable and if you think they ae you are extremely out of touch. China bombing USA would make Americans experience something worse than they most have before. USA bombing Iran cannot do that, bombs are the least of their worries. Their government has killed far more than Israel or US bombs have. 

Look, I know the USA isn't doing this to "save the Iranian people". They want the oil, but saving the people is just coming as a nice bonus. Why would you want them to live under a strict dictatorship where people have died for as little as singing and dancing? Also, the thumbnail of that video is ABSURD. If a Women dressed like that Iran she'd be AT BEST imprisoned, but highly likely she wouldn't be seen again

Chrkeller said:

Women and children are the property of men with limited rights.
The value of a woman’s life is one-half the value of a man’s life.
The testimony of one man is equal to the testimony of two women.
Daughters get half the inheritance that sons get.
A woman does not have the right to divorce her husband.
A man can divorce his wife any time he wishes, even without her knowledge.
Men are allowed to marry four “permanent” wives and as many temporary wives as they want.
Women cannot travel, work, go to school, or even leave the house without the permission of their husband or father.
A woman must live where her husband decides.
Mothers do not get custody of their children after sons reach the age of two and daughters reach the age of seven, in the case of divorce.
Children belong to their father, as soon as they are born.
Husbands can take children away from their mother and have another woman raise the child.
A widow does not get custody of her children after the death of her husband. Paternal grandparents or paternal relatives get custody of the children, and the mother has no right of visitation.
If a father does not have any family, a local cleric takes custody of the woman’s children, as well as the family assets and possessions.
The age of criminal responsibility, under article 1210(1) of Iran’s Civil Code, is set at fifteen for boys, but only nine for girls.
The law sanctions marriage of girls at the age of thirteen, but gives fathers the right to sell their daughters at the age of nine.
In the case of inheritance, an older widow with grown children only gets one-eighth of the value of a dwelling.

*I find liberals defending certain countries amusing*

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A man who sees his wife commit adultery may be exempted some punishment if he kills her. There are some exemptions for men who kill children or grandchildren, creating protection for "honour killings" of women and girls accused of sexual misconduct.

How does all this hyperbole justify killing children, bombing schools and hospitals. This is not the way to help the people, this only further radicalizes those in power.

Most of that is propaganda, applying extremes to a whole populations. And all of that is no reason to massacre civilians. Maybe it makes you feel better about bombing a country, but it's only making it worse, prolonging the revolution. 

A peaceful revolution has been taking place for many years
https://iranwire.com/en/features/140975-hope-in-every-move-how-dance-becomes-protest-in-the-heart-of-iran/
https://service95.com/women-iran-hijab-law-resistance

Instead of stimulating those movements and empowering Iranian women, bombing the country will only tighten the grip of the religious extremes.


No one is defending Iran's regime, people are condemning bombing Iran. That for motives that have nothing to do with making life better in Iran. The goal is to turn Iran into another country endlessly on the verge of civil war going nowhere. Just like Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Stoking up tensions to make life worse rather than better.



U.S. Evangelicals are intentionally spreading false information online about Iranian Christians in order to promote more war and bloodshed.


This is not about saving the people, not even helping the people. 



Iran mourns 165 girls, staff killed in school strike during US-Israel war



That is the result, while this was before US/Israel started bombing Iran



https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/iranians-turning-selena-gomez-song-into-global-protest-anthem/fhky11ad1
https://time.com/6234429/iran-protests-revolution-history/


Reforms come from within
, not by decimating a country from outside. That only opens the door for even more radical elements to take hold.



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SvennoJ said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

No-one has been killed by the government in USA just for singing and dancing. In Iran they have because it's a strict Islamic rule and singing + dancing is Haram in Islam. No-one has been hung from cranes in the USA, but in Iran they have by their tens of thousands. They are not remotely comparable and if you think they ae you are extremely out of touch. China bombing USA would make Americans experience something worse than they most have before. USA bombing Iran cannot do that, bombs are the least of their worries. Their government has killed far more than Israel or US bombs have. 

Look, I know the USA isn't doing this to "save the Iranian people". They want the oil, but saving the people is just coming as a nice bonus. Why would you want them to live under a strict dictatorship where people have died for as little as singing and dancing? Also, the thumbnail of that video is ABSURD. If a Women dressed like that Iran she'd be AT BEST imprisoned, but highly likely she wouldn't be seen again

Chrkeller said:

Women and children are the property of men with limited rights.
The value of a woman’s life is one-half the value of a man’s life.
The testimony of one man is equal to the testimony of two women.
Daughters get half the inheritance that sons get.
A woman does not have the right to divorce her husband.
A man can divorce his wife any time he wishes, even without her knowledge.
Men are allowed to marry four “permanent” wives and as many temporary wives as they want.
Women cannot travel, work, go to school, or even leave the house without the permission of their husband or father.
A woman must live where her husband decides.
Mothers do not get custody of their children after sons reach the age of two and daughters reach the age of seven, in the case of divorce.
Children belong to their father, as soon as they are born.
Husbands can take children away from their mother and have another woman raise the child.
A widow does not get custody of her children after the death of her husband. Paternal grandparents or paternal relatives get custody of the children, and the mother has no right of visitation.
If a father does not have any family, a local cleric takes custody of the woman’s children, as well as the family assets and possessions.
The age of criminal responsibility, under article 1210(1) of Iran’s Civil Code, is set at fifteen for boys, but only nine for girls.
The law sanctions marriage of girls at the age of thirteen, but gives fathers the right to sell their daughters at the age of nine.
In the case of inheritance, an older widow with grown children only gets one-eighth of the value of a dwelling.

*I find liberals defending certain countries amusing*

edit

A man who sees his wife commit adultery may be exempted some punishment if he kills her. There are some exemptions for men who kill children or grandchildren, creating protection for "honour killings" of women and girls accused of sexual misconduct.

How does all this hyperbole justify killing children, bombing schools and hospitals. This is not the way to help the people, this only further radicalizes those in power.

Most of that is propaganda, applying extremes to a whole populations. And all of that is no reason to massacre civilians. Maybe it makes you feel better about bombing a country, but it's only making it worse, prolonging the revolution. 

A peaceful revolution has been taking place for many years
https://iranwire.com/en/features/140975-hope-in-every-move-how-dance-becomes-protest-in-the-heart-of-iran/
https://service95.com/women-iran-hijab-law-resistance

Instead of stimulating those movements and empowering Iranian women, bombing the country will only tighten the grip of the religious extremes.


No one is defending Iran's regime, people are condemning bombing Iran. That for motives that have nothing to do with making life better in Iran. The goal is to turn Iran into another country endlessly on the verge of civil war going nowhere. Just like Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Stoking up tensions to make life worse rather than better.



U.S. Evangelicals are intentionally spreading false information online about Iranian Christians in order to promote more war and bloodshed.


This is not about saving the people, not even helping the people. 



Iran mourns 165 girls, staff killed in school strike during US-Israel war



That is the result, while this was before US/Israel started bombing Iran



https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/iranians-turning-selena-gomez-song-into-global-protest-anthem/fhky11ad1
https://time.com/6234429/iran-protests-revolution-history/


Reforms come from within
, not by decimating a country from outside. That only opens the door for even more radical elements to take hold.

You mean the peaceful protest where iran massacared thousands and irani asking for the aid of the U.S. ? Irani people been celebrating here for days, only the muslims are angry.



 

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xl-klaudkil said:

You mean the peaceful protest where iran massacared thousands and irani asking for the aid of the U.S. ? Irani people been celebrating here for days, only the muslims are angry.

The peaceful protests that started late December that were hijacked by outside influences and turned violent, yes.

Protests sparked by sanctions and crashing the Iranian currency.


If you want people to improve their lives, don't isolate, demonize and economically starve them. What do people turn to in times of hardship? Religion and strong man figures. Revolution comes with prosperity and the West has been doing anything to prevent that in Iran.

https://brownpoliticalreview.org/punishing-the-people-us-sanctions-on-iran/

If all you have is a hammer...


Soft power is far more productive, yet US has destroyed its soft power by its actions.
https://ip-quarterly.com/en/does-decline-us-soft-power-matter



Death toll after 3 days (according to CNN)

  • Iran: At least 787 people have been killed by US and Israeli bombing across Iran, the semi-official Tasnim news agency reported Tuesday, citing the Iranian Red Crescent. Among those killed were 168 children and 14 teachers following the US-Israeli attack on a girls’ elementary school on Saturday, according to state media.
  • Lebanon: At least 52 people were killed and 154 were wounded in Israeli strikes across Lebanon on Monday, the Lebanese government said.
  • Israel: At least 10 people have been killed and more than 200 injured in Israel since it attacked Iran, according to Israel’s emergency services Magen David Adom.
  • Iraq: At least four Popular Mobilization Force soldiers were killed in a US-Israeli airstrike on Diyala, Iraq, the militia’s media directorate said Sunday.
  • Kuwait: At least nine people have been killed in Kuwait since Saturday, including six US service members, according to CENTCOM, and two Kuwaiti service members, the country’s army said on Tuesday. One person was killed in an attack Sunday, the country’s health ministry said.
  • UAE: At least three people have been killed in the United Arab Emirates, according to the country’s Ministry of Defence.
  • Bahrain: One person was killed after debris from an intercepted missile sparked a fire on a “foreign vessel” in Bahrain’s Salman Industrial City, Bahraini state media said Monday.


Oil and gas prices are rising playing into Putin's hands.
Biggest losers of this conflict will be Ukraine, Gaza / West Bank, Lebanon, the Iranian people in Iran and US citizens. 



For me it is simple, if Iran was close to having nukes, then well something had to be done. Where they close to having nukes? **** if I know. I don't know if anybody really knows.

*I don't trust the US, Israel, Iran, Russia or China.  

IAEA seems to think Iran was close to weapon grade uranium, but again, who knows for sure?  

Last edited by Chrkeller - 1 day ago

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SvennoJ said:
xl-klaudkil said:

You mean the peaceful protest where iran massacared thousands and irani asking for the aid of the U.S. ? Irani people been celebrating here for days, only the muslims are angry.

The peaceful protests that started late December that were hijacked by outside influences and turned violent, yes.

Protests sparked by sanctions and crashing the Iranian currency.


If you want people to improve their lives, don't isolate, demonize and economically starve them. What do people turn to in times of hardship? Religion and strong man figures. Revolution comes with prosperity and the West has been doing anything to prevent that in Iran.

https://brownpoliticalreview.org/punishing-the-people-us-sanctions-on-iran/

If all you have is a hammer...


Soft power is far more productive, yet US has destroyed its soft power by its actions.
https://ip-quarterly.com/en/does-decline-us-soft-power-matter

Yea,sure buddy if ya say soo.



 

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http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil