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Chrkeller 15 hours ago
SvennoJ said:
Chrkeller said:

Bunch of white washing BS.  IAEA at one point detected 83% enriched U-235.

Iran was flatly developing nukes, but everyone in this thread wants the US to be the only bad stakeholder.  So be it, not worth my time tbh.

EU didnt sanction Iran less than 6 months ago because the US is bad and Iran was a victim.

It's indeed pointless arguing with you, you have made up your mind based on years of propaganda.

In February 2023, International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors detected uranium particles enriched up to 83.7% at Iran’s underground Fordo nuclear site. While near the 90% weapons-grade threshold, the IAEA found this likely represented unintended fluctuations in the enrichment process rather than a stockpile buildup, though it marked a significant escalation.

That's 2.5 years before Israel decided to attack Iran in the June 12 day war, begging Trump to bunker bust Iran's nuclear facilities.

If Iran was developing nukes, where are they? 
Same as Iraq's WMD, oops can't find them.

Yep you win.  EU sanctioned for no reason.  IAEA is lying.  Iran blocked inspections because they are good.  Lol, enjoy the thread.  



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Darc Requiem 11 hours ago
Chrkeller said:
Darc Requiem said:

That's just a lie. I'm really sick of people saying this. They've been weeks away from nuclear weapons since I was 15 years old. I'm 46.

The sad truth of the matter is this. If it wasn't for my country, the CIA to be more specific, assassinating their democratically elected leader in 1951. We would not have the repressive regime that's in charge of the country. Unfortunately the US and UK thought getting good pricing on oil was more important the rights of Iranians. Instead we fund a nation that illegally developed a nuclear weapons program, thinks the Hannibal Directive is a good idea, and thinks double tap strikes are okay. A nation that thinks planting explosive devices on their targets, waiting for them to be surrounding by civilians, and then detonating the devices makes them the most "moral army' in the world.

@xl-klaudkil I'm not sure what you are on about. The consistent opinion is to be against Russia's attack on Ukraine and against Israel's constant terrorism against it's Palestinian population and regional neighbors. If you have an issue with Russian's assault on the Ukrainians and no issue with Israel's actions, you are just a hypocrite. Like my government for example. A government that has given weapons to Ukraine to help them fend off Russia's war of aggression, while also giving weapons to Israel's for their wars of aggression.

No it isnt and is a great example of anti US mentality.

Fact: power plants need 2 to 5% enriched U-235.

Fact: iran has over 400 kg of 60% enriched U-235.

Fact: enriched U-235 above 10%, much less above 50% has one purpose and one purpose only.

And a this information doesn't come from the US, it comes from an international recognized body, IAEA.

And this, for me, proves the point of this thread (and many others) being anti US.  

Iran absolutely, irrefutable and undeniably were buildinf nukes, full stop. 

No it's an example of reality. Has Netanyahu been saying Iran is weeks away from a nuclear weapon for 31 years? Yes or no? We both know the answer is yes. Has it been over 1600 weeks since he started saying things? Yes. It's been literal decades. So no, they are weeks way. Never have been. People like you eating up easily disprovable propaganda is why governments get away with this type of nonsense. This thread isn't anti-US. Our government is anti-US, they keep getting dog walked by Israel into unjust war after war to our own countries detriment. Meanwhile people cant' afford health insurance. The cost of buying a home is through the roof. The upcoming generations are going to have it worse than their parents. I want our country to be what is proclaims to be. It will never happen while people are too gullible to see through the propaganda and hold our leaders to account.



Zkuq 9 hours ago
Chrkeller said:
SvennoJ said:

It's indeed pointless arguing with you, you have made up your mind based on years of propaganda.

In February 2023, International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors detected uranium particles enriched up to 83.7% at Iran’s underground Fordo nuclear site. While near the 90% weapons-grade threshold, the IAEA found this likely represented unintended fluctuations in the enrichment process rather than a stockpile buildup, though it marked a significant escalation.

That's 2.5 years before Israel decided to attack Iran in the June 12 day war, begging Trump to bunker bust Iran's nuclear facilities.

If Iran was developing nukes, where are they? 
Same as Iraq's WMD, oops can't find them.

Yep you win.  EU sanctioned for no reason.  IAEA is lying.  Iran blocked inspections because they are good.  Lol, enjoy the thread.  

The inspections were blocked after Israel and the US abused them to attack the nuclear facilities. As far as I remember, the EU was very much interested in negotiations before. However, without inspections there's no good way to know whether the other party is keeping their end of the bargain, so sanctions it is.



numberwang 7 hours ago

Isreal, Pakistan, India, China and Russia all have nukes and no one cares. Israel stole their nuclear material from the US know as the Apollo affair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_affair

John F. Kennedy aggressively pressured Israel in 1961–1963 to allow international inspections of its nuclear facility at Dimona, fearing that Israel was developing nuclear weapons and that this would trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. Declassified documents reveal that Kennedy and Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion were involved in an intense, high-stakes diplomatic confrontation over the issue, with Kennedy demanding regular, verifiable inspections. JFK was shot shortly after and the message was received.

Israel has the Samson option to pressure (blackmail) western governments into unlimited support. The "Nuclear Alert": Some sources suggest that in the face of possible defeat, Israeli officials, potentially with the knowledge of Prime Minister Meir, signaled this capability to the United States to encourage faster conventional resupply. When the United States found out, it began transferring enormous quantities of conventional weapons to bolster the Israelis, including 72 Phantom and Skyhawk jets, 200 Patton tanks, then state-of-the-art TOW missiles and heavy artillery.
https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2002/09/16/Yom-Kippur-Israels-1973-nuclear-alert/64941032228992/