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CaptainExplosion on 27 November 2025
PAOerfulone said:
curl-6 said:

Of course there will be one eventually, pandemics have always been a part of life on Earth and always will be, like hurricanes or tsunamis or any other disaster.

That doesn't mean it will happen any time soon though.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if it does.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the more I think about it, the more I think COVID was an inside job meant to clean house of the world's elderly and sick people and essentially soft reset the world's population without starting a full-blown World War 3. But it was botched as COVID... really isn't THAT much more dangerous or severe than the flu when you look at it. So, they may try again in a few years with something MUCH worse.

It came from Xi Jinpig's China so it's no surprise. He's a spineless cocksucker who hates Winnie the Pooh as much as he hates common decency. He's Chinese Trump.



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curl-6 on 27 November 2025
JackHandy said:
curl-6 said:

Popular brands still see hardware spikes when a big new IP arrives and pushes those who were on the fence or waiting to take the leap though.

Brand perception matters more, and no brand demonstrated that more than Sony with the PS2. Greatest selling dedicated home console ever by a staggering number, and it launched with what... SSX? Fantavision? Ridge Racer 5? Nobody gave a damn. They wanted, nay needed the PS2, and they went out in droves and got it... much to insistence of us Dreamcast players that it was over-hyped and not worth it, yet.

Man, did I have some adolescent, frivolous rage for that thing at launch. lol  

I'm pretty sure PS2 still saw hardware spikes when games like say Gran Turismo 3, MGS2, Final Fantasy X, etc released and pushed a bunch of people who were on the fence or still waiting to run out and buy one.



Wyrdness on 27 November 2025
JackHandy said:
curl-6 said:

Popular brands still see hardware spikes when a big new IP arrives and pushes those who were on the fence or waiting to take the leap though.

Brand perception matters more, and no brand demonstrated that more than Sony with the PS2. Greatest selling dedicated home console ever by a staggering number, and it launched with what... SSX? Fantavision? Ridge Racer 5? Nobody gave a damn. They wanted, nay needed the PS2, and they went out in droves and got it... much to insistence of us Dreamcast players that it was over-hyped and not worth it, yet.

Man, did I have some adolescent, frivolous rage for that thing at launch. lol  

PS2 did have a killer app at launch, DVD, it was the cheapest DVD player on the planet this is highlighted in how in Japan the biggest seller at PS2's launch was The Matrix DVD. Lack of DVD is one major reason DC lost Japan so quickly to the PS2 despite a really good start in the region, brand perception is one thing but it's not as key as a solid line up which PS2 had that's why people got it and DVD covered that in Japan for the first year.

In it's first year in the west mean while which was the second year for Japanese consumers (we still had staggered launches back then) PS2 had GT3, FFX, Jak and Daxter, Onimusha, Devil May Cry, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Red Faction and the break out hit of that decade GTA3.



CaptainExplosion on 27 November 2025
Wyrdness said:
JackHandy said:

Brand perception matters more, and no brand demonstrated that more than Sony with the PS2. Greatest selling dedicated home console ever by a staggering number, and it launched with what... SSX? Fantavision? Ridge Racer 5? Nobody gave a damn. They wanted, nay needed the PS2, and they went out in droves and got it... much to insistence of us Dreamcast players that it was over-hyped and not worth it, yet.

Man, did I have some adolescent, frivolous rage for that thing at launch. lol  

PS2 did have a killer app at launch, DVD, it was the cheapest DVD player on the planet this is highlighted in how in Japan the biggest seller at PS2's launch was The Matrix DVD. Lack of DVD is one major reason DC lost Japan so quickly to the PS2 despite a really good start in the region, brand perception is one thing but it's not as key as a solid line up which PS2 had that's why people got it and DVD covered that in Japan for the first year.

In it's first year in the west mean while which was the second year for Japanese consumers (we still had staggered launches back then) PS2 had GT3, FFX, Jak and Daxter, Onimusha, Devil May Cry, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Red Faction and the break out hit of that decade GTA3.

I told you all it was a glorified cheap DVD player.



sc94597 on 27 November 2025

Smash Bros is my vote. And I say this as somebody who probably likes it the least of Nintendo's big IPs

I put it over Mario Kart and Pokémon because it feels like those games have more overlap with other series and are less likely to be an independent system seller.

Smash Bros is able to use Nintendo's collective IP-base to get people into it. Also it introduces people to characters from their other games and sells those games for them. So many people were introduced to Xenoblade from playing Smash Bros, as an example.



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Norion on 27 November 2025
CaptainExplosion said:
Wyrdness said:

PS2 did have a killer app at launch, DVD, it was the cheapest DVD player on the planet this is highlighted in how in Japan the biggest seller at PS2's launch was The Matrix DVD. Lack of DVD is one major reason DC lost Japan so quickly to the PS2 despite a really good start in the region, brand perception is one thing but it's not as key as a solid line up which PS2 had that's why people got it and DVD covered that in Japan for the first year.

In it's first year in the west mean while which was the second year for Japanese consumers (we still had staggered launches back then) PS2 had GT3, FFX, Jak and Daxter, Onimusha, Devil May Cry, MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Red Faction and the break out hit of that decade GTA3.

I told you all it was a glorified cheap DVD player.

How is a console that sold over 1.5 billion software units a "glorified cheap DVD player"? The only way this comment makes any sense is if the PS2's attach rate was relatively low but it isn't low at all. It's higher than most consoles at nearly 10.



CaptainExplosion 6 days ago
Norion said:
CaptainExplosion said:

I told you all it was a glorified cheap DVD player.

How is a console that sold over 1.5 billion software units a "glorified cheap DVD player"? The only way this comment makes any sense is if the PS2's attach rate was relatively low but it isn't low at all. It's higher than most consoles at nearly 10.

I'm saying it only sold so well not because of the quality of it's software but because it doubled as a more affordable DVD player.



Norion 6 days ago
CaptainExplosion said:
Norion said:

How is a console that sold over 1.5 billion software units a "glorified cheap DVD player"? The only way this comment makes any sense is if the PS2's attach rate was relatively low but it isn't low at all. It's higher than most consoles at nearly 10.

I'm saying it only sold so well not because of the quality of it's software but because it doubled as a more affordable DVD player.

I mean the comment you replied to made it clear this was a big factor in just one place for just its first year. The DVD player aspect made way less of a difference after that since the cheapest DVD players quickly became a lot cheaper than the PS2 so it wasn't long till the PS2 was an expensive DVD player considering by 2003 it was possible to get one for less than $50. Also the 2nd paragraph went into how good its software line-up was in its first year in the west due to the staggered launch. 



JackHandy 6 days ago
curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

Brand perception matters more, and no brand demonstrated that more than Sony with the PS2. Greatest selling dedicated home console ever by a staggering number, and it launched with what... SSX? Fantavision? Ridge Racer 5? Nobody gave a damn. They wanted, nay needed the PS2, and they went out in droves and got it... much to insistence of us Dreamcast players that it was over-hyped and not worth it, yet.

Man, did I have some adolescent, frivolous rage for that thing at launch. lol  

I'm pretty sure PS2 still saw hardware spikes when games like say Gran Turismo 3, MGS2, Final Fantasy X, etc released and pushed a bunch of people who were on the fence or still waiting to run out and buy one.

Yeah, but it sold without them.



curl-6 6 days ago
JackHandy said:
curl-6 said:

I'm pretty sure PS2 still saw hardware spikes when games like say Gran Turismo 3, MGS2, Final Fantasy X, etc released and pushed a bunch of people who were on the fence or still waiting to run out and buy one.

Yeah, but it sold without them.

The games still sold systems though; it would have sold less without GT3 or GTA or FFX or MGS2.