Meh the some group of whiners just make a lot of noise, they are a minority that hardly speaks for everyone.

The Switch 2 already has lots of fantastic things going for it and Nintendo should be getting more praise for it:

1.) The hardware/chipset is a fantastic result and even getting praised by Digital Foundry and the like. It's able to run even PS5/XBSS titles like Star Wars Outlaws well. For an 8nm chip in a system this small/thin is terrific engineering, best Nintendo hardware for a new Nintendo system since the GameCube easily.

2.) Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza both being wholly exclusive games already available for the Switch 2 is terrific, PS5 or XBox Series S certainly didn't launch with two huge exclusives like that. Some people might complain about MK World not having the same content as 8 Deluxe but naturally DLC will come and make MK World an even better game. DK Bananza is one of the best Nintendo games of the last 10 years too. Both of these titles in the long term will be come to known as classic Nintendo titles. 

3.) The 3rd party support that's coming to the system I think already looks like the best 3rd party support Nintendo has had since the Super NES days. Resident Evil 9 confirmed day 1, Indiana Jones & The Great Circle confirmed, FF7 Remake Intergrade confirmed, FF7 Rebirth confirmed, FF7 Remake Part III confirmed, Persona 3 Reload coming, Madden NFL already released, Borderlands 4 coming, multiple Yakzua games, Elden Ring coming, and from extremely reliable sources we've heard Starfield, Halo, Forza, MS Flight Simulator are also on their way, there's probably a shit ton of games coming for 2026 that we don't know about and will be unveiled in the coming months.

4.) The price is reasonable for what you get. $450 or $500 with Mario Kart World is entirely reasonable as the Switch 2 outperforms similarly priced or more expensive portable handhelds and as of yet Nintendo is not introducing a tarriff related price hike which is giving people a chance to buy in now for a cheaper cost.

The system is better than what I could have hoped for and I was on the fairly optimistic side to begin with, I'm very happy with where we sit today. 

And that despite record-setting sales!

Compare that to the Wii, which sold less but was sold out for how long again?

You can make the case the Switch 2 is much cheaper in Japan for the console, games and accessories so the pricing in other markets maybe unfairly high in comparison but they have the right to do that and ultimately if other markets accept those high prices then so be it. Europe isn't Nintendo's best market and probably the first to have quite the slowdown in Switch 2 sales after the first 2 months on sale. Ultimately the market will decide how Switch 2 consoles sell. If Nintendo prices too highly the hardware will sell less and less software is sold where they make most of their money from. It's also possible people will still buy the Switch 2 but buy far less software if pricing is too high so maybe they will only have 4-6 games over the lifetime of ownership rather than a dozen titles or more.

I'm sure Nintendo are monitoring sales figures and ready to move on pricing if they have to. I remember the N64 launching at £250 in the UK and it absolutely bombed in sales and it seemed very quickly it was at £150 and not much longer it was at a sub £100 price for the rest of the time it was on the market. I even remember it being sold at £39.99 at one point close to the end of its life from one retailer clearing out stock. I think I bought my N64 at £99.99 with a game, might have been from Special Reserve.

The point is everything is only worth what people are prepared to pay, price too highly and it sells badly. I personally don't think the Switch 2 can hold its current pricing in Europe and we have already seen some big discounting in Europe. I suspect it won't be that long before a solus Switch 2 is £299 and a pack in game like Mario Kart is £350 or maybe £340 if a digital download. Nintendo may face a poor Christmas in Europe with current pricing. The Switch 2 has been sold at £299 in the UK from Clearance Bargains for damaged packaging/returns although people who bought them stated they were brand new pretty much.

You often get a situation where stock is sold on a sale or return basis and then a retailer has too much stock and wants to return it and Nintendo would give them a discount instead in order for them to shift their stock easier rather than pay for the return of the stock. So you often get new stock sold as damaged packaging etc when really its just stock that has been discounted rather than returned to Nintendo. It feels like in the UK we are seeing that a fair bit so assume the Switch 2 is not selling well at all retailers.

It's all speculation but however the Switch 2 sells consumers will decide and it will be a personal choice probably not influenced at all by these people. I don't think it's controversial or strange to say Nintendo's high pricing of consoles and games will cause a slowdown of sales however the debate is how big a slowdown will it cause and which markets will be effected. I would definitely chalk up Europe as a market resisting these prices a bit more though so far.

Anybody know if they show up on NY comic con? Lol

I was there Thursday to Sunday, and didn't see anything -- either on the show floor or on 11th Avenue outside the Javits Center.

The console is made in Japan and moves a short distance. Selling a console in Japan where it's made, doesn't have to deal with other countries tariffs , taxes, VAT, shipping overseas costs, etc. 

Nintendo forecast this year to earn about as much profits this year compared to last year (when they only had a low selling Switch 1 on the market), that means that far from price gouging with the Switch 2 they are likely not making much profits at all from Switch 2 sales in Japan and the US (Due to tariffs). Probably only in Europe does the Switch 2 have decent profit margins.

So the irony is, it seems from the info we have from Sony and Nintendo's fiscal reports, Sony is making more profits from selling PS5 at its current price point compared to Nintendo selling Switch 2 at its current price point.

I think some are assembled in Japan but the parts are mainly made in China and I think assembly for most markets is in Vietnam. It might just be development kits are made in Japan. It's not a Japanese made console even for Japan its either sourced from China or Vietnam. I think its just Nintendo like to give their own domestic market better pricing and profit more from other markets. The stock that comes to Europe or the US has never been to Japan, it would be shipped directly from the manufacturing country. A lot of international trade is priced in US dollars so I really can't see any reason logistically why Japan has cheaper Switch 2 consoles.

Switch 2 consoles, software and accessories are all cheaper in Japan however their sales tax is 10%. Here in the UK it is 20%, other European countries it varies. I'm unsure about the US and the current tariff situation and their sales tax but would assume a lot more than Europe. If Japan is paying £300 for the switch 2 solus pack with 10% sales tax that is like £270 before tax so really the UK price should be £330 but its more like £380. The US price is $450 and that works out at £335 but I don't know if sales tax is on top of that price and how much that would be. It's no surprise really that the European market is the first market to slowdown Switch 2 sales considerably as really we get the worse pricing. A lot of Europe has a lower disposable income than the US too. So they have probably priced too high in Europe and will have reduced sales figures because of it. It was in August that Europe went back to buying more PS5s than Switch 2s which was very quick after the Switch 2 launch.

I just read this thread and... wtf