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Normally trump emotes quite a bit. He's an evil yet quite charismatic fellow, and is very expressive. But the video has him talking almost like a robot with frozen arms and hands. The only variation is in pacing and pitch but has no pauses or any other minute qualities to show that it was a live video at some point.




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This woman is a professor at University of Toronto:

The fact this is someone who is supposed to be educating young people is downright disturbing.

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Aways fun watching people show their true colors.



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Kyuu said:

I intensely disliked him. He wasn't terrible enough to deserve dying so young...hundreds of millions of people are equally evil/brainwashed and I don't wish them death.

I feel sorry for the children he left behind, and mourn the fact that lunatic conservatives and right wingers will label him a courageous martyr of sorts. I pray that his murder won't lead more division, hatred, and deaths... but who am I kidding? This world is going straight to hell.

I work in american politics on the opposite aisle to Kirk. I have not been on VGChartz in months but was curious what this little internet forum was saying and I am sadly disappointed. I expected a few outliers to be either celebrating or blaming the "radical left" however I didn't expect to find so few with empathy. 

I've watched more Kirk content that I would like to admit. I call it "hate watching" where I enjoy watching something that gets me upset. However in all this time watching Kirk make offensive statements or bad faith arguments, I also found a respect for his willingness to debate. I know it was all either economically or power motivated for him but still he was open to it. Particularly of interests are the debates with the Oxford and Cambridge students where he was challenged by students that came very prepared. To his credit, I watched both of those from his youtube channel in full. 

His death is a tragedy. Not only for his family but for our nation because we are so divided that many can't simply even denounce political violence. I now fear the same thing that his death will empower his movement and could lead to violence in retaliation. 



 

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Vinther1991 said:
angrypoolman said:

I dont care how much you disagree with the things he said, if you are going to excuse this and give us all this mental exercise to imagine the worst person we can and celebrate their death in order to provide cover who are doing the same for charlie kirk because "they are just using a different yardstick" or whatever, then that speaks more about who you are and what you are about than it does about charlie kirk, because he would never, ever go that low. 

He definitely would go that low, wishing to bail out the Paul Pelosi attacker:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/charlie-kirk-bail-out-alleged-paul-pelosi-attacker-1234621493/

He also repeatedly lied about how George Floyd died.

Maybe I am in minority, but I think lying about how someone died is much more disgusting than celebrating their death, if I am being honest. 

celebrate his death then man, knock yourself out. i really dont care. I dont have the energy for this anymore. i am just going to focus on me, my wife, my children, how i can best serve and protect my family, and probably stay off the internet for a few days. ha



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Chrkeller said:

Aways fun watching people show their true colors.

it has certainly been interesting



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angrypoolman said:
Lucca said:

Read my post again. The extreme case for that absolute isn't the worst person *in American politics* *today*, it's the worst person anywhere ever. You can argue that you shouldn't celebrate the death of any current political figures in America, but that is subjective as long as you concede that there has been a person in history whose death is celebratable. An absolute is called an absolute because it has no conditions.

Since the absolute is not true, one has to provide reasons as to why his death should not be celebrated–and grapple with the reasons why it would–instead of just shutting people down with bullshit faux-empathic aphorisms and refusing to think any further about it.

yes dude I know what you said. i was not arguing against it. i was narrowing the scope of the sentiment because it is only sensible to do so. I am not going to compare today's current american politicians and political commentators to political leaders in other countries that spew rhetoric im not familiar with, I am going to compare him to his peers because that is the only sensible thing to do. the point you are making is not profound at all. of course there are people we would celebrate the death of, such as scum bags who murder innocent women trying to take public transit home after a day of work.

i would never wish this on somebody who i have a political disagreement with, no matter how much I thought their rhetoric harms society. do you know why? because I understand that people argue for the things they do because they believe if more people adopt their viewpoint, it will be better for society. thats why people engage in political discourse. its all for this same exact reason.

I dont care how much you disagree with the things he said, if you are going to excuse this and give us all this mental exercise to imagine the worst person we can and celebrate their death in order to provide cover who are doing the same for charlie kirk because "they are just using a different yardstick" or whatever, then that speaks more about who you are and what you are about than it does about charlie kirk, because he would never, ever go that low. 

The thing with political figures is that what they say is often much more important than what they do, and their words have much more power than what one single individual can do. That's why when you think of the worst people in history while having the faintest knowledge of the history of humanity, a whole lot of them are politicians. Hitler didn't do a whole lot of bad with his own hands, you know. He just influenced millions of people into doing so. With his words. Same with Stalin, Mussolini, Pinochet, any other autocrat in history. You cannot equate the power of the words of a public, political figure in the public stage, with the power of the words of your uncle on Thanksgiving dinner.

Charlie Kirk was not just a forum poster who talked about politics, he was a think-tank founder, a conspiracy theorist, an activist, and effectively a part of the US government. He didn't "just say stuff", which is bullshit from the get-go, but he also actively worked towards a more regressive (not conservative, regressive), intolerant, violent country. People are not celebrating his death "just because they disagree with him", and you know that, they are doing so because of what he had done and was still doing as part of the neo-nazi US far-right.

You seem to just have heard about the guy, because no one with any knowledge of him would say he would never "go that low", because if there was one thing he was good at was going lower and lower each and every day. Vinther1991 gave some good examples above, and a quick glance at his Wikipedia page would provide you with plenty more. He was the closest thing to the KKK Trump was able to get away with associating with directly.



Republicans and Democrats alike have come together to denounce the killing at a vigil held at the Utah State Capitol building:

https://kutv.com/news/local/hundreds-turn-out-to-vigil-for-charlie-kirk-at-utah-state-capitol-building-rotunda

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Lucca said:
angrypoolman said:

yes dude I know what you said. i was not arguing against it. i was narrowing the scope of the sentiment because it is only sensible to do so. I am not going to compare today's current american politicians and political commentators to political leaders in other countries that spew rhetoric im not familiar with, I am going to compare him to his peers because that is the only sensible thing to do. the point you are making is not profound at all. of course there are people we would celebrate the death of, such as scum bags who murder innocent women trying to take public transit home after a day of work.

i would never wish this on somebody who i have a political disagreement with, no matter how much I thought their rhetoric harms society. do you know why? because I understand that people argue for the things they do because they believe if more people adopt their viewpoint, it will be better for society. thats why people engage in political discourse. its all for this same exact reason.

I dont care how much you disagree with the things he said, if you are going to excuse this and give us all this mental exercise to imagine the worst person we can and celebrate their death in order to provide cover who are doing the same for charlie kirk because "they are just using a different yardstick" or whatever, then that speaks more about who you are and what you are about than it does about charlie kirk, because he would never, ever go that low. 

The thing with political figures is that what they say is often much more important than what they do, and their words have much more power than what one single individual can do. That's why when you think of the worst people in history while having the faintest knowledge of the history of humanity, a whole lot of them are politicians. Hitler didn't do a whole lot of bad with his own hands, you know. He just influenced millions of people into doing so. With his words. Same with Stalin, Mussolini, Pinochet, any other autocrat in history. You cannot equate the power of the words of a public, political figure in the public stage, with the power of the words of your uncle on Thanksgiving dinner.

Charlie Kirk was not just a forum poster who talked about politics, he was a think-tank founder, a conspiracy theorist, an activist, and effectively a part of the US government. He didn't "just say stuff", which is bullshit from the get-go, but he also actively worked towards a more regressive (not conservative, regressive), intolerant, violent country. People are not celebrating his death "just because they disagree with him", and you know that, they are doing so because of what he had done and was still doing as part of the neo-nazi US far-right.

You seem to just have heard about the guy, because no one with any knowledge of him would say he would never "go that low", because if there was one thing he was good at was going lower and lower each and every day. Vinther1991 gave some good examples above, and a quick glance at his Wikipedia page would provide you with plenty more. He was the closest thing to the KKK Trump was able to get away with associating with directly.

yeah, sure he was a kkk who engaged in debates and free discussion on controversial topics in order to radicalize people to commit violence and he is a racist and a bigot and evil and he deserves to die and not raise his children and the world is better off for it. and hes a bad person who needs to die. is it too far to celebrate that his gruesome murder was recorded in hd so that his wife and kids can see it? it sounds wrong to say that but you sound pretty smart and good at rationalizing these things so let us know, how far is too far? or is the sky the limit because hes a bad nazi and punch a nazi and a good nazi is a dead nazi



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angrypoolman said:

celebrate his death then man, knock yourself out. i really dont care. I dont have the energy for this anymore. i am just going to focus on me, my wife, my children, how i can best serve and protect my family, and probably stay off the internet for a few days. ha

WTF dude. I am not celebrating anyones death, nor have I  said people should.