I actually do hate violence but maybe if he and his party weren't actively doing everything in their power to make life miserable for everyone who isn't exactly like them, people wouldn't feel the need to shoot him.

Maybe if he was a good person he wouldn't have been targeted.

Or maybe, you know, it's actually not okay to murder someone if you disagree with them.

This right here is infuriating. Because it implies that the conflict is over a disagreement.

Disagreement is for whether The Beatles or Led Zeppelin is the best. Disagreement is over whether to have chicken or beef. Disagreement is for liking Playstation or Xbox.

What Charlie Kirk and his ilk did were bordering on hate crimes, and the discourse they sowed in the populace through their podcasts and TV shows and communities did active, continuous, egregious harm to what little unity we had in this world. He actively endorsed policies that demonstrably got people killed, thought the concept of empathy was bad, and regularly said borderline nazi shit. He wasn't just someone I disagree with, he was someone who indirectly did GREAT amounts of harm to a lot of vulnerable people all while smugly smiling about it. 

IT's fine to disagree about inconsequential stuff, not about who deserves dignity, respect, and basic human rights. And to disregard the whole counter point as a simple disagreement is disingenuous and frankly dangerous. You saying this is actively making the world a different place by framing VERY REAL And VERY DANGEROUS rhetoric as inconsequential. you should legitimately be ashamed of yourself for contributing to the problem by misrepresenting it. Gaslighting, really.

Frankly, I find your attitude to be the "dangerous" and "harmful" one, that if somebody says things you don't like, then you think they deserve to die.

youll be seeing that same exact theme a lot when it comes to this topic. 

i havent engaged with this user because i knew it would be pointless. im surprised that the original post that you responded to is even allowed to be said on this forum. maybe mods will get around to taking action.

Only a good Nazi is a dead Nazi. People seem to think spreading Nazi ideology is just political and should respect it, even if you disagree with it. Fuck off with that shit. No. Those people spread ideas and a cult of personalities that are just as dangerous, if not more so, than guns. These people strip away other people's rights to exist simply for not being like them and being gay. Disabled. Short. Fat. Too skinny. Too dark. Not Christian. You allow them to open one gate, and they all open. What Trump is doing is following a very similar playbook to Nazi Germany. Kirk was an ally to this movement and preached his poison that Trump and co preach. He wasn't a martyr, nor a hero, nor a tragedy, but a cockroach stamped out. Oppressors and people who spread oppressors' lies are not victims.

Mods. Do what you will but I am removing myself from this topic regardless.

Welp, guess that's what happens when you get rid of everyone competent so you can insert your own loyalists into key government positions.

The only thing I lament is that the more these gun shooting deaths happens, the more people feel entitled to do it. Will it come to a point where they will be naturalized like mass shooting in school have become? As for the man himself, are you guys really disapproving people he would constantly dehuminize for dehumanizing him now?

Do you realize that even if he had 10 guns or more with him, he would still be dead by now? He believed guns save people but no amount of guns he had would protect him from what happened today

If our politicians weren't sociopaths, they would all ban together, put their petty swords down and demand unity. But since they are, they literally can not see that their bullshit is going to get them killed, and so this will sadly continue.