Conservative activist Charlie Kirk murdered in Utah

[angrypoolman]

Pemalite said:

angrypoolman said:

anybody who would even slightly imply that this is not a big deal or he deserved it in some way has some severe evil running through their veins. i cannot think of any public figure who was out there having a dialogue with willing participants get murdered in this way that i would be happy or even indifferent about it. there isnt a single person. this is absolutely tragic. he is leaving behind a poor woman to take care of her two babies alone now, without a father. my heart absolutely breaks.

I think it highlights a systemic issue in the United States right now, which has been an ongoing issue for decades, but has gotten more significant in the last year or two.
There is a significant left vs right toxicity in the nation right now, both sides are extreme, both sides are unwilling to concede or recognize valid points... Which is creating significant hatred, distrust and toxicity.

Charlie deserves praise for spending years debating political points openly... And even when he was brutally humiliated, he took it on the chin (And still refused to change his perspective, which shows his unhinged bias) and kept debating.

But other than that, on a personal level... I find it ironic that Charlie is partly to blame for his own death by standing in the way of gun control and reducing gun violence.

he isnt to blame for his death in any way. are you really going to sit here and tell me and everybody else that anybody who defends the second amendment is to blame for their own death? this is an asinine position. gun control laws are not going to prevent straight up assassinations like this. the reason this occurred is because there was somebody out there who didnt like what he was saying, so he or somebody else decided that they wanted him dead. its as simple as that. this is a problem of how radicalized people are when it comes to the way they react to opposing worldviews. thats what this is 100% about.

i agree with your point on the left vs right toxicity in our country and how extreme people have become. also keeping the incident in charlotte north carolina in mind, we need the second amendment now more than ever. its becoming increasingly clear that you are safest, especially in urban areas, when you are strapped. everybody should be trained on how to use a firearm. im not a gun guy myself, but with the way the world is, there is no doubt that i will be in the near future learning how to shoot and purchasing one. especially because i have a family. ill be damned if someone wants to break into my house and victimize me and my family. its not happening on my watch. too much evil out there to be left unprotected.