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xl-klaudkil said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You're 100% right there my mistake!

Unfortunately it doesn't change the point being made, there is no situation where we should be using someone as a posterchild for great genes. Especially not when we have a massive increase in antisemitism and using blonde hair and blue eyes as an example of great genes when Nazi ideology is on the rise.

Does that answer your question?

She does have great genes thou since she looks stunning....soo.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
xl-klaudkil said:

She does have great genes thou since she looks stunning....soo.

Explain what genes are,you cant argue against facts.

She has great genes, someone who is obesse can have great genes to yet the cant control there eating habits and ate unhealthy.

There is nothing wrong with that ad.



ArchangelMadzz said:
pokoko said:

Are we playing dumb and pretending that "perfect" was mentioned at all?  Is this what we're doing? 

If you can't answer the question then say so, don't make shit up just to fit your narrative.  

You're 100% right there my mistake!

Unfortunately it doesn't change the point being made, there is no situation where we should be using someone as a posterchild for great genes. Especially not when we have a massive increase in antisemitism and using blonde hair and blue eyes as an example of great genes when Nazi ideology is on the rise.

Does that answer your question?

Nowhere is being a Nazi defined by blue eyes or blonde hair so the idea that someone should be penalized for it is ridiculous.  Even if it was defined by that, no one should be made to feel ashamed of their DNA, which is what people are trying to do here.  This is absolutely an attempt to shame her for her features.  If the model had been Iranian--who were also accepted by the Nazi party--with dark eyes and hair then no one would be saying a word about it.  If she were overweight then the same people slamming her would be cheering her instead.

Personally, I don't think a person should be attacked for something that happened a long time ago, especially when her ancestors weren't even a part of it. 

I mean, telling someone else they can't do something because of their eye and hair color sounds more in line with Nazi beliefs than anything.



pokoko said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

You're 100% right there my mistake!

Unfortunately it doesn't change the point being made, there is no situation where we should be using someone as a posterchild for great genes. Especially not when we have a massive increase in antisemitism and using blonde hair and blue eyes as an example of great genes when Nazi ideology is on the rise.

Does that answer your question?

Nowhere is being a Nazi defined by blue eyes or blonde hair so the idea that someone should be penalized for it is ridiculous.  Even if it was defined by that, no one should be made to feel ashamed of their DNA, which is what people are trying to do here.  This is absolutely an attempt to shame her for her features.  If the model had been Iranian--who were also accepted by the Nazi party--with dark eyes and hair then no one would be saying a word about it.  If she were overweight then the same people slamming her would be cheering her instead.

Personally, I don't think a person should be attacked for something that happened a long time ago, especially when her ancestors weren't even a part of it. 

I mean, telling someone else they can't do something because of their eye and hair color sounds more in line with Nazi beliefs than anything.

You know exactly what the relationship between Nazism and blonde hair and blue eyes is.

You've added so many things to what I've said but to address anyway:

Sydney should not be ashamed of her DNA.

I've explicitly said no one should be a poster child for great genes meaning your last statement is irrelevant.

If Iranians were part of the "superior race" idea of Nazism this would be just as bad.

I'm not attacking her I'm attacking the creators of the campaign. The holocaust had nothing to do with Sydney. 

Okay now we've addressed all of the points I didn't even make.

Are you at least going to acknowledge anything I've said regarding a huge rise in nazi ideology, anti-Semitism and holocaust denial and in the context of society right now that this isn't a bit weird? Or at least tone deaf?



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xl-klaudkil said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Explain what genes are,you cant argue against facts.

She has great genes, someone who is obesse can have great genes to yet the cant control there eating habits and ate unhealthy.

There is nothing wrong with that ad.

I feel like you're adding nothing to this so I don't really feel like replying to you. 

Genes are quite literally linked to obesity, the number of fat cells you're born with are determined by genetics, there's many genes linked to satiation and appetite, you're not adding anything useful man.



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ArchangelMadzz said:

Aren't you the same one that posted that horrific takeaway from that political survey and didn't acknowledge how dishonest it was?

In general, I really like Curl but I don’t like that he’s intentionally creating threads that he knows will be controversial then dips out.



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zorg1000 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Aren't you the same one that posted that horrific takeaway from that political survey and didn't acknowledge how dishonest it was?

In general, I really like Curl but I don’t like that he’s intentionally creating threads that he knows will be controversial then dips out.

I don't necessarily mind him dipping, although to not stick around after making a title like that is a bad move.

But yeah that thread where he's just outright lying then takes no accountability is very poor taste.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
xl-klaudkil said:

She does have great genes thou since she looks stunning....soo.

I think it is you who may be missing the point.:

As part of the campaign, American Eagle is launching a pair of jeans produced in collaboration with Sweeney to raise awareness for domestic violence. The proceeds from each pair’s sale, the company says, will go toward a volunteer crisis intervention text line.

Fuck those victims and trying to help future victims using a white actress right?  Instead people need to ignore all that and focus on the face and be outraged it is white instead.  Forget the message and the point of trying to help victims of domestic abuse. It is too bad that the message will be lost because some cannot see past the color of her hair skin and eyes.....

In reality due to the "bad" press I bet they sell way more of these now than they ever would have had they gone with what you seem to be suggesting a more palatable set of characteristics for the current "context of society". 

Just read this: Despite the backlash, American Eagle stocks have jumped, up 20 percent over the past five days.

Sorry to be harsh but this double standard is just as stupid aimed at whites as it would be if it were aimed at any other skin color. We are so stupid to get hung up on something so unimportant as skin color.  Tons of other issues in this world and this is one of the hills people pick to die on.  



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