Don't mind Platinum, he's being intentionally disingenuous.
His sole purpose is to downplay everything Nintendo related.

Yeah, it's not the best, but I can see somebody enjoying the game this way. And yes, while the Switch 2 only has 9GB available for games, none of that is going to the OS where-as a portion of the 8GB on this system is being utilized by Windows 11's background processes. Both systems have a total of 12GB (albeit with different memory hierarchies.) 

On this system I tested Oblivion Remastered and Doom The Dark Ages using this A400 (and an A1000) just to get a (rough) estimate of what these games might look like on Switch 2 (with the A400 being a worst case scenario and the A1000 being a best case.) The A400 couldn't do Doom The Dark Ages at a playable frame-rate (15-22 FPS even at ridiculously low resolutions.) VRAM was too much of a limit, even with config modifications. Even when I eventually switched to 16GB of DDR3 it didn't do well in that game. But I was surprised with the performance in Oblivion Remastered. 

I might be missing something, but I was estimating the A400 to be about 85% of the Switch 2's GPU in docked mode and 150% its handheld mode in peak raw performance, given that they are both Ampere and the respective clock-rates/core-counts (768 cores at a peak of 1.76 Ghz for the A400 vs. 1536 cores at 1.07 Ghz docked or 0.56 Ghz portable.) 

I own a Switch and just bought a game on it a few days ago. Why would I be buying games for my Switch and then come on here to be intentionally disingenuous towards Nintendo? 

Everyone reading this, I want you to know that Curl-6 refuses to speak to me after I said I would be fine with PlayStation games going to Xbox, but PS5 games would be much harder because downporting them to work on the Xbox's 8GB of usable RAM would be very expensive for Sony, and since the games sell poorly on Xbox it wouldn't be worth it. Curl said I was being disingenuous about that as well. I was dead serious about what i said. Port all the PS4 games over to Xbox if you want, since it would be a straight port that requires no effort to get it to work unlike PS5. 

I never said that, don't twist my words, it seems you like straw man fallacies.

Switch 2 is a totally different product from any PC with that physical format. I've talked about differences in size, weight, price, ventilation... in relation to possible Switch 2s with other higher performance specifications, I haven't said that the reason for buying a Switch 2 is performance.

The main reason for buying a Switch 2 is the games, whether they are from Nintendo or other companies. Why buy a Switch 2 and not a Switch OLED? Because it has different, newer games that the Switch OLED won't have due to its performance difference.

Do Switch 2 games work on a ROG Ally X? No, right? Well, there's your answer as to why you should buy one and not the other. Anyone who wants to play PC games in a portable format has multiple compatible machines to choose from, from the Steam Deck to the new Microsoft-branded ones. Anyone who wants Nintendo games, and those from third parties that develop for Switch 2, will have to buy the Switch 2, it's as simple as that.

Going to demolish your post because it's full of holes. Apologies for that.

1) I never said you said that, I asked a question, thus it's not a fallacy, but nice try. If you can't tolerate a question... That's on you.
2) Your first sentence in your previous post was literally about performance and I quote: "That's not what we were talking about. Switch 2 has a very noticeable performance improvement over Switch."

Hence why I asked the damn question in the first place because clearly PERFORMANCE was a DECIDING factor to some degree if you spent the time, energy and effort to write that sentence to begin with.

So... Checkmate on that. - But nice try in asserting that I made a straw man, but clearly that was a lie.

But you literally brushed off that:
1) Switch OLED is smaller and more portable.
2) Switch OLED has same thickness.
3) Switch OLED has better battery life.
4) Switch OLED has a better display.
5) Switch OLED is cheaper.
6) Switch OLED has cheaper games.
7) Switch OLED has more games.

Was irrelevant factors. - Hence your sentence on performance.

So ARE those differences important or are they not? You need to make up your mind.

The main reason for buying -any- console is for the games.
I am not buying a Xbox Series X/Playstation 5 -just- for Netflix... And I am not buying a Switch console as a back scratcher.

Just remember the Switch OLED has more games. 

The Switch 2 has the -promise- of more games coming.

You are half right.

Emulation will enable PC handhelds to run Nintendo games. (However legalities will vary from region to region.)
We saw this with the Switch 1... And Switch 1 games looked and ran better on PC.

The reverse sadly won't occur... But I am expecting more ports of more PC games due to the competent hardware in the Switch 2.

I have a problem, and that is that I don't like to use multi-quotes in threads. They make everything much more difficult to read, which is why I delete chains of replies. It seems that you haven't read the whole conversation, which is why you're charging in like a bull without understanding the context of my conversation with another forum member.

The context is a user who claims that Nintendo did not want to manufacture an 8-inch console with the power of a Series S out of greed, citing as an example a 13-inch tablet that costs $2,100. Anyone with knowledge of electronics and semiconductor manufacturing technology knows that this would entail a cost that a normal user would not accept, in terms of price, noise, size and battery life. You cannot break the laws of physics.

That's what we were discussing, you're trying to divert it to a comparison with Steam Deck-type PCs, when the type of user of a Switch 2 and a Steam Deck are totally different. Some want a console that allows them to play games and that's it, while a user of a PC with these dimensions is looking for something completely different, they are usually power users.

If you want, you can say whatever you want, that you've destroyed my arguments, that I'm contradicting myself, congratulations. You've won an internet argument. That won't change the fact that, for now, the vast majority of Switch 2 users are very happy with what they have bought at the price they paid for it.

I have read the entire conversation, so don't make false assumptions or conspiracies.
I am only forming a rebuttal against points of conflict or points I disagree with, the rest I either agree with or don't care about.

And this is one of those points of contention.

What I am trying to establish is what specific point/points are justification of choosing a Switch 2 over another device... And then we can try and apply those same standards to determine if another device is factually better.

If you use arguments of Price, noise, size, battery life and more... The Switch OLED is factually a better buy over the Switch 2.
Remember...
1) Switch OLED is smaller and more portable.
2) Switch OLED has better battery life.
3) Switch OLED has a better display.
4) Switch OLED is cheaper.
5) Switch OLED has cheaper games.
6) Switch OLED has more games.

If it's just performance that is the deciding factor, then the ROG Ally X is factually a better buy... Or that $2,100 tablet.

And you are correct that physics does play a role in performance/power... Up to a point. Remember the Switch 2 is on an OLD process node from Samsung... A chip made on a class leading TSMC node would be able to pack more performance into a smaller chip and use less power doing it.
Using an OLED display would reduce power consumption as well; as you don't require an overbright backlight to try and overpower the LCD pixels to get a lit display.

That is a lie.
I am not trying to divert this to a PC-discussion... Where the irony is, is that you have decided to mention Steamdeck and other PC's in this discussion.

If you are the owner of a Steam Deck... You are primarily buying it for games, like the Switch 2.
Steamdeck running SteamOS is geared purely for gaming, not productivity or web browsing... It's a very console-like experience.

If you buy a Switch 2, you are primarily buying it for games.

Where these platforms diverge is the types of games. - PC Gaming tends to be full of RTS/RPG titles and gets a lot of those AAA-like console experiences from Xbox Series X and Playstation 5.

I'll give you the debate you are looking for @Pemalite. So no clearly you don't understand the conversation because the discussion is about Switch 2's hardware relative to price. That's why Hardstuck ditched the debate because the more powerful devices such as Rog Ally X and that tablet are also far more expensive. So stop trying to turn this into a dick measuring contest about performance because no one at Nintendo or Asus would want to sale devices like Rog Ally instead of the 100 million plus Switch 2 will sale.

As for the nonsense with Switch Oled. This is even more embarrassing for you because so much you said is wrong it's almost entertaining lol.

Switch Oled is cheaper and smaller (more portable). Thats about all you said was correct.

How do we determine which has better batter life? I imagine by both running the same game? Not sure it's fair to compare the battery life of Switch running Pokemon Scarlet to the battery life of Switch 2 running Cyberpunk. I think comparing them both running Pokemon Scarlet or any game you want would be a fairer comparison because battery life is relative to the game.

Your stance on games/library of games however is just flatout wrong because Switch 2 still plays Switch 1s library, so in reality Switch 2 actually has more games than Switch 1 because only one of them run Switch 2 games ;).

Screen on Oled being better is also subjective because while you like the Oled screen, I like the HDR, 120 hz, 1080p, and bigger screen.

Finally, the reason why someone would want Switch 2 is due to its performance, price, games, and everything it comes with in the box! Now beat that!

I didn't ditch the debate, I just decided that TES 4 Oblivion was the game that I needed to see to consider buying a Switch 2. Performance relative to price is irrelevant if the baseline performance isn't good enough. TES 4 oblivion is a game that released this year, so it shouldn't be too much to ask of the Switch 2. 

No, you ditched the debate after you realized that Nintendo COULD make an 8 or 10 inch tablet with Xbox series S power as long as Nintendo expected it to sale like crap due to its price like those devices you are comparing. You ran once you realized you couldn't find a device in Switch 2's price range with that performance.