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Ryuu96 said:
Pemalite said:

Labor is in front. Good result.

I think we can partly thank the clusterfuck that is the Trump administration for this as well.

Thanks Trump for hurting Conservatives in two countries in a row now.

America's stupidity is becoming the best thing for centre/centre-left governments.

Absolutely... When you have the most powerful nation on Earth elect a conservative leader who in turn has gone on to screw over their closes allies who have assisted the USA in terms of resources, military, information, trade and more for over a century...

The world starts to feel betrayed and then we see these pivots to progressive ideas.

Also helps that our conservative leader (Dutton) was basically a "Temu Trump" who looks like Lord Voldermort. - Who then had to change their approach when Trump's popularity took a nosedive.

For those who wish to see the counting progress and results: https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal-election-2025



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Yeah it looks like the Liberals got their arses kicked, and I suspect a lot of that was due to people really not liking the idea of Trump-style shenanigans taking root here. 

While we have a fair few conservatives down under, as with almost any country, the perception of Trump here is largely negative, and I think it turned a lot of people off voting for the right this election.



Pemalite said:
Ryuu96 said:

Thanks Trump for hurting Conservatives in two countries in a row now.

America's stupidity is becoming the best thing for centre/centre-left governments.

Absolutely... When you have the most powerful nation on Earth elect a conservative leader who in turn has gone on to screw over their closes allies who have assisted the USA in terms of resources, military, information, trade and more for over a century...

The world starts to feel betrayed and then we see these pivots to progressive ideas.

Also helps that our conservative leader (Dutton) was basically a "Temu Trump" who looks like Lord Voldermort. - Who then had to change their approach when Trump's popularity took a nosedive.

For those who wish to see the counting progress and results: https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal-election-2025

Trump is becoming a toxic association, we are seeing it in Europe too, even far-right parties in Europe are trying to distance themselves from Trump/America and even throw the odd criticism towards Trump/America. It's not just the betrayal but we're literally witnessing America shoot itself in the face in real time, watching them as they destroy their country and reveal to us all that their populism was all talk. And yeah as you said, when Trump's popularity took a nosedive, all the politicians who fashioned themselves after him like Dutton and Pierre suddenly switched how they presented themselves, Lol.

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Dutton may lose his seat like Pierre did in Canada.

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Pemalite said:

There is actually a small loophole in the law... It's only compulsory to vote if you register to vote.

I didn't start voting until I hit the young age of 30... However having matured somewhat (Hint: Big ask for a firefighter), decided to add my opinion and morals to help guide the country in a direction I believe it should go in.
In saying that, once I registered to vote, I have to vote every election.

Compulsory voting does have some advantages, there isn't wasted resources trying to "encourage" people to have a democracy sausage and vote, more effort can be placed on the issues at hand.
And because it's compulsory, small excuses like "work" isn't really applicable, so most people get some time off work.

There is also the advantage of having one less excuse of why a political party won/lost, so a lot less whinging and moaning.

But then you can no longer pick and choose when it makes sense for you to vote and when it doesn't. You're still stuck with no voting or only voting.

Compulsory may compel Aussies to pay attention, but it won't do much for Canucks, and definitely won't for Murica.

The whining and moaning here would just be transferred to why some have to wait to vote for nothing in the heat or cold.

Pemalite said:

By legal definition here... An Adult is someone who is 18 years of age or older, that means.. They can drink and go to clubs and pubs, drive cars and trucks, join the army, fire or ambulance service and deal with deceased casualties... I think if we are going to legally allow them to do all those things, they should be legally allowed to vote to help guide theirs and the nations future.

That said, not all 18 year old are unwise, just like how many 50 year olds are factually stupid and lack wisdom. - It's a case by case basis.

The only real appropriate way to "weed out" poor voting is to have an I.Q test and bring in strict laws to curb misinformation during political campaigns.
I.E. There SHOULD be legal repercussions when a candidate says something stupid like "Stopping a war in 24 hours" when everyone knows it's logistically impossible.

I don't personally agree with a lot of things. 18 is a bit young to drink, but then again, pre teens can get sex changes, so should they be able to vote? If they should have to wait until they're 18 or older, how many other min ages should be moved higher perhaps, like voting? If 21 used to be the min age way back let's say, then why let 18 year olds vote today, since we all know they're less mature, responsible, competent, etc, vs an 18 year old a century ago, let alone a 21 year old back then.

I think basic cognitive tests should be used to weed out anyone who's 'lost it', like very old people, and IQ tests certainly aren't a bad idea, assuming the min level still allows the majority to vote.

I also agree there should be repercussions for blatant lies from politicians, but how to deal with that exactly isn't clear, because how do you enforce that legally? If your opposition blocks you or undermines you, etc, from stopping a war, are you still at fault? If you're not part of the war directly, and one of the involved Countries leadership purposely avoids your negotiations, should you pay a price? There's far too many ways in which this could be used politically to hurt or ruin a politician, so best case you might be able to go after the few most small, miniscule lies, but would that really make a difference and be worth it?



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curl-6 said:

Just put my vote in; there wasn't even a line, I was in and out in 2 minutes.

Polling seems to suggest that much like in Canada, Trump's disastrous first few months in office have turned a lot of voters here against right wing parties/politicians, with the Liberal party having led polls months ago, only to now be trailing behind Labor in almost every poll.

  • Conservative Party Leading in Polls in Canada and Australia.
  • Trump Gets Elected, World Witnessing Months of Chaos in America.
  • Polls Completely Reverse in Canada and Australia.
  • Centre-Left Parties Win.
  • Leaders of Both Conservative Parties Lose Their Seats (Dutton and Pierre).

It's like the exact same, Lmao. Of course I can't blame this all on Trump, there were multiple reasons for their collapse but Trump definitely played a part and it's funny to troll that Trump is the reason for Conservatives losing It's probably a mixture of Trump's fault, witnessing America shoot itself in the foot, the Conservatives own incompetence and their leaders being deeply unlikeable and the opposition parties having a better message that resonated with voters unlike Democrats in USA.

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Ryuu96 said:
curl-6 said:

Just put my vote in; there wasn't even a line, I was in and out in 2 minutes.

Polling seems to suggest that much like in Canada, Trump's disastrous first few months in office have turned a lot of voters here against right wing parties/politicians, with the Liberal party having led polls months ago, only to now be trailing behind Labor in almost every poll.

  • Conservative Party Leading in Polls in Canada and Australia.
  • Trump Gets Elected, World Witnessing Months of Chaos in America.
  • Polls Completely Reverse in Canada and Australia.
  • Centre-Left Parties Win.
  • Leaders of Both Conservative Parties Lose Their Seats (Dutton and Pierre).

It's like the exact same, Lmao. Of course I can't blame this all on Trump, there were multiple reasons for their collapse but Trump definitely played a part and it's funny to troll that Trump is the reason for Conservatives losing It's probably a mixture of Trump's fault, witnessing America shoot itself in the foot, the Conservatives own incompetence and their leaders being deeply unlikeable and the opposition parties having a better message that resonated with voters unlike Democrats in USA.

Yeah the horror stories coming out of America and the fear that "that could happen here" were absolutely a factor, most Aussies don't view Trump favourably.

It's not the only factor; Dutton himself is not well liked and has been unpopular on a national level for years now, IMO it was a mistake for the Liberals to even try to run him as a candidate for PM, I'm sure they could have found someone, anyone, more charismatic.



curl-6 said:
Ryuu96 said:
  • Conservative Party Leading in Polls in Canada and Australia.
  • Trump Gets Elected, World Witnessing Months of Chaos in America.
  • Polls Completely Reverse in Canada and Australia.
  • Centre-Left Parties Win.
  • Leaders of Both Conservative Parties Lose Their Seats (Dutton and Pierre).

It's like the exact same, Lmao. Of course I can't blame this all on Trump, there were multiple reasons for their collapse but Trump definitely played a part and it's funny to troll that Trump is the reason for Conservatives losing It's probably a mixture of Trump's fault, witnessing America shoot itself in the foot, the Conservatives own incompetence and their leaders being deeply unlikeable and the opposition parties having a better message that resonated with voters unlike Democrats in USA.

Yeah the horror stories coming out of America and the fear that "that could happen here" were absolutely a factor, most Aussies don't view Trump favourably.

It's not the only factor; Dutton himself is not well liked and has been unpopular on a national level for years now, IMO it was a mistake for the Liberals to even try to run him as a candidate for PM, I'm sure they could have found someone, anyone, more charismatic.

It's more likely because CAN and AUS are closet sexist Countries, obviously. CAN Libs had the choice of Freeland and chose Carney instead. 

Dunno bout AUS, but CAN 2025 feels more like USA 2020, and since we tend to lag, could very well mean CAN 2029 might end up USA 2024.

'People aren't buying GTA VI because the news about GTA is scary and says bad things might happen because it did to a few others'.  LOL



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PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

EricHiggin said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah the horror stories coming out of America and the fear that "that could happen here" were absolutely a factor, most Aussies don't view Trump favourably.

It's not the only factor; Dutton himself is not well liked and has been unpopular on a national level for years now, IMO it was a mistake for the Liberals to even try to run him as a candidate for PM, I'm sure they could have found someone, anyone, more charismatic.

It's more likely because CAN and AUS are closet sexist Countries, obviously. CAN Libs had the choice of Freeland and chose Carney instead. 

Dunno bout AUS, but CAN 2025 feels more like USA 2020, and since we tend to lag, could very well mean CAN 2029 might end up USA 2024.

'People aren't buying GTA VI because the news about GTA is scary and says bad things might happen because it did to a few others'.  LOL

People look at what's happening to the US currently under right wing leadership and most of them don't want their own country to follow the same path, it's that simple.

That's not the only factor in the Liberal Party getting whipped here of course; it also doesn't help that they just didn't offer anything to inspire or reassure people in terms of policies or ideas, and they ran a widely disliked candidate.

The end result though is clear; a resounding conservative rout.

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And Trump results in another government employee losing his job. Hard luxk, Pete.