Everything is going to go up.

Will Sony follow? | |||
| Yes | 33 | 86.84% | |
| No | 2 | 5.26% | |
| I have no idea | 3 | 7.89% | |
| Total: | 38 | ||
| OdinHades said: It's a shame that they increase prices everywhere so the whole world is subsidizing trumps stupid tariffs. |
First, some reality check (as of today):
Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS) "9504" section 1: No Tariffs are listed for videogame consoles.
So price increases in the US have nothing to do with tariffs.
For MS, making the consoles has become extremely expensive over time. The XBX has always been more expensive to manufacture than the PS5, but with sales around one fourth of the PS5 only, manufacturing costs have skyrocketed. Manufacturing cost is a number game, and selling only a fraction of the competitors box raised costs considerably. Obviously Nutella has gotten tired of subsidizing XBX hardware at any cost.
The other effect we see are price increases all over the world for consoles. I'd guess the companies simply took advantage of the absurd prices for PC hardware, specifically graphics cards, and went along. Particularly Nintendo with its cheap ass Switch2 product.
Purely guessing, Sony might have shipped as many PS5 as they could into the States while HTUS 9504 still is what it was before Orangehead. Same thing as with the Basel pharmacy companies. We noticed several unscheduled freight Jumbos taking off the airport in early March...
| Spindel said: Suddenly the Switch 2 seem a bargain for what you get :) |
Yep, buy it ASAP.
Better deal early on. I don't think this console will be well stocked for years.
| Spindel said: Suddenly the Switch 2 seem a bargain for what you get :) |
Supposedly its 3Tflops docked.
Digital Foundry is saying, that compaired to RDNA2 (the PS5), this would be like a ~2.5 Tflop machine (compared to the PS5's 10.2).
Switch 2 also has less memory, memory bandwidth, storage, ect ect ect.
Its not a bargin, in terms of specs of the machine your getting.
In a sense, your getting 1/3-1/4th of a PS5, in terms of performance.
And its not like the PS5 costs 3 times as much.
All that said... I hope Sony don't raise prices as well.
Non of them should be costing this much.
drkohler said:
First, some reality check (as of today): Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS) "9504" section 1: No Tariffs are listed for videogame consoles. So price increases in the US have nothing to do with tariffs. For MS, making the consoles has become extremely expensive over time. The XBX has always been more expensive to manufacture than the PS5, but with sales around one fourth of the PS5 only, manufacturing costs have skyrocketed. Manufacturing cost is a number game, and selling only a fraction of the competitors box raised costs considerably. Obviously Nutella has gotten tired of subsidizing XBX hardware at any cost. The other effect we see are price increases all over the world for consoles. I'd guess the companies simply took advantage of the absurd prices for PC hardware, specifically graphics cards, and went along. Particularly Nintendo with its cheap ass Switch2 product. Purely guessing, Sony might have shipped as many PS5 as they could into the States while HTUS 9504 still is what it was before Orangehead. Same thing as with the Basel pharmacy companies. We noticed several unscheduled freight Jumbos taking off the airport in early March... |
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No f***ing way.
Is that actually true? Are consoles exempt from the tariffs ?
If true, sony better not f***ing join the club of greed and raise theirs as well.
JRPGfan said:
Supposedly its 3Tflops docked. |
Most people value consoles in terms of games, not teraflops; the Switch was the same price as PS4, only like 1/4 as powerful, but Switch sold way more.
Hell, the Series X is a beast in terms of flops but clearly the market sees it as undesirable.
curl-6 said:
Most people value consoles in terms of games, not teraflops; the Switch was the same price as PS4, only like 1/4 as powerful, but Switch sold way more. Hell, the Series X is a beast in terms of flops but clearly the market sees it as undesirable. |
The 1st Switch was ~397 Gflops (I think it was?) compaired to the 1,84 Tflops of the PS4.
That was more like 1/5th of a PS4.
The Switch 2 is actually closer to the PS5, than the Switch was to the PS4.
(and with up-scaling. its def. in a better spot to get good looking 3rd party games than the Switch was)
Didn't the PS4 start at 399$? while the Switch started at 299$ ?
So it was 100$ cheaper. Maybe I am not remembering it right...
I think part of the reason, is while a home typically only has 1 console... a family would own multiple Switch's for each kid.
The price was low enough you could justify getting each kid their own. That and many people, also got the Oled.
So the user base, is probably smaller than the sold units would suggest.
(that's basically like people saying part of why the PS2 sold well, was people wanted to be able to watch dvd's.)
This is also why I think Nintendo is more price sensitive than the other two.
Series X is 12 Tflops instead of 10.2.... and your right, that 20% doesn't seem valued much by the market as a whole.


The value of something is determined by the individual... That is the individuals particular individual needs, wants, desires and preferences.. So the value of the Switch would vary from person to person as everyone places value on something... Differently.
If the value of the Switch isn't seen as appealing, then it's a lost sale.
To chalk of up the value of something based on an intrinsic and useless THEORETICAL metric alone like "Flops" is thus... Stupid.

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| PotentHerbs said: Inflation is all that needs to be said. |
Yes, the very thing we were all saying that those tariffs would cause. Turns out that if you inflate prices you cause inflation.
JRPGfan said:
Supposedly its 3Tflops docked. |
How much does the Steam Deck cost again?