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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo Quarterly Sales Update: Switch at 150.86m shipped, Mario Party Jamboree at 6.17m

Mar1217 said:
curl-6 said:

Including download-only games, it has possibly passed that, yeah. There are a lot of Switch games without a physical version.

Do they even count digital software releases first that have eventually received a physical or do they not ?

Not sure. One would think so, as the general distinction as I understand it is that "digital releases with no physical version" aren't counted. Not sure though how that would cover something like Doom Eternal which got a small scale made-to-order physical release from Limited Run Games much later.

At any rate, total Switch software is likely ahead of PS2.



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If my information is correct, PS2's SW was at 1,537 Billion at march 2012. The last games came out late 2013 (FIFA 14, PES14) and thats it. I highly doubt many more games where sold past this point so its clearly below 1,6 billion. If Nintendo really does not include games without a physical version (1st, 2nd and 3rd party) then the actual number is a damn lot higher than 1,359,90 Billion!



Page 23 of Nintendo's latest update. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250204_3e.pdf

[Notes] ・Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software, and do not
include download-only software or add-on content.
・Actual software sales units include the quantity bundled with hardware or other products.
・Forecasted software sales units includes software bundled with other products during the nine
months ended December 31, 2024 but does not included software to be bundled with other
products January 1, 2025 onwards



Tober said:

Page 23 of Nintendo's latest update. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250204_3e.pdf

[Notes] ・Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software, and do not
include download-only software or add-on content.
・Actual software sales units include the quantity bundled with hardware or other products.
・Forecasted software sales units includes software bundled with other products during the nine
months ended December 31, 2024 but does not included software to be bundled with other
products January 1, 2025 onwards

So stuff like the Champions DLC from Breath of the Wild, the Mario Kart 8 Expansion Pass, and Future Redeemed from Xenoblade 3 aren't included since they're add-on content?



Tober said:

Page 23 of Nintendo's latest update. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250204_3e.pdf

[Notes] ・Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software, and do not
include download-only software or add-on content.
・Actual software sales units include the quantity bundled with hardware or other products.
・Forecasted software sales units includes software bundled with other products during the nine
months ended December 31, 2024 but does not included software to be bundled with other
products January 1, 2025 onwards

What? They do not include download- only software?! So indies (most of them are DL only) are not included? Then the Switch must be clearly above 1,5 billion by now!! Maybe even above PS2's software total!?!?



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PAOerfulone said:
Tober said:

Page 23 of Nintendo's latest update. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250204_3e.pdf

[Notes] ・Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software, and do not
include download-only software or add-on content.
・Actual software sales units include the quantity bundled with hardware or other products.
・Forecasted software sales units includes software bundled with other products during the nine
months ended December 31, 2024 but does not included software to be bundled with other
products January 1, 2025 onwards

So stuff like the Champions DLC from Breath of the Wild, the Mario Kart 8 Expansion Pass, and Future Redeemed from Xenoblade 3 aren't included since they're add-on content?

Correct. This also goes for software where there was no boxed offering like e.g. Kirby's Dream Buffet.



killer7 said:
Tober said:

Page 23 of Nintendo's latest update. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250204_3e.pdf

[Notes] ・Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software, and do not
include download-only software or add-on content.
・Actual software sales units include the quantity bundled with hardware or other products.
・Forecasted software sales units includes software bundled with other products during the nine
months ended December 31, 2024 but does not included software to be bundled with other
products January 1, 2025 onwards

What? They do not include download- only software?! So indies (most of them are DL only) are not included? Then the Switch must be clearly above 1,5 billion by now!! Maybe even above PS2's software total!?!?

Correct, this is how they count it.



killer7 said:
Tober said:

Page 23 of Nintendo's latest update. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2025/250204_3e.pdf

[Notes] ・Software sales units include both packaged and downloadable versions of software, and do not
include download-only software or add-on content.
・Actual software sales units include the quantity bundled with hardware or other products.
・Forecasted software sales units includes software bundled with other products during the nine
months ended December 31, 2024 but does not included software to be bundled with other
products January 1, 2025 onwards

What? They do not include download- only software?! So indies (most of them are DL only) are not included? Then the Switch must be clearly above 1,5 billion by now!! Maybe even above PS2's software total!?!?

Including digital only sales, NSW would almost certainly be above PS2…but there’s a reason (i believe) why Nintendo chooses not to include it in their software sales reports, and why Sony shouldn’t be including it in their own: Shovelware apps releasing at next-to-no-cost inflate the software figures to comical levels. It’s a useless metric to say that NSW has >2bil software sales if nearly 1bil coming from eShop shovelware sold for cheap.



firebush03 said:
killer7 said:

What? They do not include download- only software?! So indies (most of them are DL only) are not included? Then the Switch must be clearly above 1,5 billion by now!! Maybe even above PS2's software total!?!?

Including digital only sales, NSW would almost certainly be above PS2…but there’s a reason (i believe) why Nintendo chooses not to include it in their software sales reports, and why Sony shouldn’t be including it in their own: Shovelware apps releasing at next-to-no-cost inflate the software figures to comical levels. It’s a useless metric to say that NSW has >2bil software sales if nearly 1bil coming from eShop shovelware sold for cheap.

Low cost shovelware is a factor, but even if you rule all that stuff out, Switch should still be above PS2 just on the basis of "legit" releases as even without them its quite close.

PS2 also had quite a lot of shovelware in its own right, even without a digital store.



curl-6 said:
firebush03 said:

Including digital only sales, NSW would almost certainly be above PS2…but there’s a reason (i believe) why Nintendo chooses not to include it in their software sales reports, and why Sony shouldn’t be including it in their own: Shovelware apps releasing at next-to-no-cost inflate the software figures to comical levels. It’s a useless metric to say that NSW has >2bil software sales if nearly 1bil coming from eShop shovelware sold for cheap.

Low cost shovelware is a factor, but even if you rule all that stuff out, Switch should still be above PS2 just on the basis of "legit" releases as even without them its quite close.

PS2 also had quite a lot of shovelware in its own right, even without a digital store.

I think NSW will have better software figures than PS2 LTD, tho i can’t say if it’d be ahead currently when accounting for shovelware. (also, yea, ps2 is prolly one of the worst offenders of shovelware of any vg system ever made…tho it never got to a point where games were being sold for free at the press of a button. That’s my main point ig.)