bdbdbd said:
Machiavellian said:
When has humans in general only identify by just one definition. If you identify as straight white male does that also mean you do not identify as an American. The thing is DEI is not based on just race, you do understand that right. DEI can be race, religion, gender, nationality, age, disability etc, or are you one of those people who only see the term fitting for someone of another race outside of white and that's it? If that is the case then as always, the term DEI has been co-opted from its original definition and serve as just a tool to use for giving the appearance that someone of another race outside of being white was hired not for their skill but their race. The question is why is there such a policy or do you believe that their isn't discriminations for the list of individuals that fall under DEI. Or is it that you believe that DEI is used for hiring equal representation for individuals within that group instead of hiring to combat discriminations within the workplace. |
I'm not talking about how someone identifies him/herself. If you identify as a dog, does that make you a dog? Tomorrow you can be a cat. The day after a moose. I mean the DEI practices and diversity quotas. If you pick actors based on diversity, and not skill or how much money someone can bring in, there's something seriously wrong. If you think there aren't enough African representation in your movies, you should watch African movies. The same for Asians. And Europeans. What it does, is that it actually helps to make these actors and films known and financially viable and we get more of them. Or why not go watch women-focused films, instead of ones that were just gender swapped. If you think of the new Star Wars films, Rey was really shitty character, but Rogue One had Jyn who was excellent. Barbie was one of the best films of 2023, because it was well written and had lots of depht under the silly surface. |
The thing is you seem to single DEI as being just about race but clearly its not about just race. What you are doing is only thinking that race is the only criteria or the only sol reason why the person is being picked but there is no company that just goes and pick based on that one item. That is the narrative used so the status quo can continue to discriminate at will.
How do you know that the diversity of the actor isn't important to the role. Meaning what skill are you talking about when choosing the actor. If you have two actors and the role doesn't care what race they are, what skill determines one actor over the other. If its the main actor and you have Denzel Washington and Tom Cruise, who do you pick. Each actor skill set is different and they both bring something different to the role. Could Tom Cruise play "The Equalizer" just like Denzel Washington. Yes, but clearly each actor brings something totally different to how the role would be acted.
As far as your whole, you should watch movies made by the race or gender that wants to see representation, that doesn't really fly when you are out to make money. See, if you want to make money and do not do things that target a group that may feel not represented by your product then guess what, you will not get their money. Your whole premise on that point ignores why in entertainment, they look for more diversity and its not because they are looking to meet a quota, they are looking to make money. So yes, if a group feel that an industry isn't properly representing them, they lose that group and thus lose that money because the biggest movers of anything within the US is money.
As to your Star Wars Rey comparisons to Rogue one
Lets take another comparisons where a role that was played by a man was swapped by a woman which is Day of the Jackal. So the original film as well as the book had a white male as the agent looking for the assassin while the new series has a black woman. The show is getting pretty good reviews and the actress is getting a lot of praise for her depiction of the role. Could it be that its not about the gender but the actor and the script/direction.
At the end of it all, it really seems that people who care if character was swapped with another gender or race is more fearful about not being the default for a role more than anything else. If all roles that were not sterotypical to either gender or race were played by straight white males, we probably would never hear anything from that crowd. Your whole point seems to scream, "Stay in your lane".