Pemalite said:
bdbdbd said:
I believe it was the "woke" people who started using it to refer to intersectionalism in 2000's and then the conservatives started using it aswell as a term for social justice. Now it seems that the "woke" is trying to back out of the term because the conservatives were right about it. |
Your belief is incorrect. 1930's and earlier. Evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
bdbdbd said:
Brokeback mountain was made 20 years ago, things have changed since then, aa proven by the criticism towards Squid Game. I do agree that the impact of the film was likely positive and so will be the impact of Squid Game. |
Hence my point. Did you not read our exchange?
bdbdbd said:
Even if you do have strong moral ground coming from inside, most people need their moral compass to come from the outside. If a religion is removed, something else will fill the moral void left by religion. What fills it, is the one that want to fill it the most aggressively - likely another religion, or if not religion, it would be an ideology. It's only about choosing the least bad option. If you want atheism to fill the moral void, atheism needs to ve aggressive, like communism is for example. |
All children are born innocent. All children are born Atheist. I would argue that children have the best moral compasses before they are taught additional behaviors from society and adults... They will happily play with people from all walks of life without any prejudices or judgement.
Religion has the -worst- track record of moral and systemic abuse. ..Child abusing priests, Kony and the Lords republic army recruiting children soldiers, Middle-Eastern conflicts dating back decades, the Crusades killing millions...
And if we target the USA specifically, religion is often used to instill fear through psychological manipulation through teachings, their attacks against women/abortion, the LGBTQI community and more. All monotheistic religions are inherently violent not just physically, but also emotionally/psychologically because of their exclusivity which inevitably creates hostility towards those who are considered "outsiders". - Aka. "Sinners".
I am a firm believer the world would be a better place without religion.
Atheism isn't "filling a void". Atheism isn't a belief. Atheism isn't a religion.
Atheism is an absence of belief in the existence of a God or Gods as the burden of proof has not been met to substantiate religious claims.
In nations like my own which are majority Atheist, other "rubbish" doesn't fill the void from a lack of religion, people are happy to simply live their lives peacefully and constructively. |
I know the term woke existed long before, but it re-emerged in 2000's and the re-emerged context is how we talk about it today.
Yes, I repeated my point about Squid game as I wasn't sure If you ageed or disagreed with it.
Leaving a religion leaves a void on your moral compass. Either it's some other religion or an ideology that fills it for most people. More specifically, I'm talking about how people act in masses, not certain individual's behaviour.
The issue isn't whether a religion is monotheistic, polytheistic or an ideology. It's about how dogmatic it is. If you look at European natural pagan religions, they weren't dogmatic at all and you could practise them to your liking. Because the religions didn't have dogmas, they were rather easilly replaced by more forceful dogmatic religions.
Even newborns have prejudices. Well technically they're just xenophobic. However, children's moral compass is narcissm. The parents need to teach their kids other moral values that aren't self centered.
I'm actually quite curious on this one: If your country starts talking muslim immigrants, how long would it take for your atheist country to turn islamic? Why do you think what you think?