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sundin13 said:
bdbdbd said:

If you want to see Americans on movies, tough luck; there's DEI hires with Asians, Africans and Europeans, with the occasional jew in them.

So, if Asians, Africans, Europeans and Jews can't qualify as Americans, who exactly can?

Brits.

Edit - Wait. Shit. Europeans is listed there

Hold on let him cook, the only true Americans are Native Americans is what he is clearly saying, the rest are illegal occupiers, including the ancestors of Europeans, which is a huge portion of America.

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Ryuu96 said:
sundin13 said:

So, if Asians, Africans, Europeans and Jews can't qualify as Americans, who exactly can?

Brits.

Edit - Wait. Shit. Europeans is listed there

Hold on let him cook, the only true Americans are Native Americans is what he is clearly saying, the rest are illegal occupiers, including the ancestors of Europeans, which is a huge portion of America.

"Jews" aren't a race. Not in the strictest sense.

They represent an ethnoreligious group.

You absolutely can be an American born "jew".
You can literally decide tomorrow to be a Jew.
It's a religion... Aka. Judaism that adheres to the Torah, the first and oldest of the three Abrahamic religions, the others being Quran/Muslims and the Bible/Christians.

And just like Christianity and Islam, people can be indoctrinated into that religion.

So in my eyes, diversity doesn't include religions or cults or beliefs.



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Pemalite said:

"Jews" aren't a race. Not in the strictest sense.

They represent an ethnoreligious group.

You absolutely can be an American born "jew".
You can literally decide tomorrow to be a Jew.
It's a religion... Aka. Judaism that adheres to the Torah, the first and oldest of the three Abrahamic religions, the others being Quran/Muslims and the Bible/Christians.

And just like Christianity and Islam, people can be indoctrinated into that religion.

So in my eyes, diversity doesn't include religions or cults or beliefs.

You sorta have to seperate the Religion from the Ethnoreligious.  You can follow the religion tomorrow (most rabbi and synagogues wont accept you through till you go through conversion.  It dumb but it not like Christianity who will accept anyone, Judaism generally require you to go through all these steps to convert if you want to be a member of a synagogue.  Some synagogue are insane for example I had a cousin and when they went to get marry by a rabbi they made them prove that her mother was jewish, her mother Mother was jewish and her Mother mother Mother was jewish before he would do the marriage.  They less strict with men (he only had to prove his mother was jewish and not go back multiple gens) because if the mother jewish then the child is jewish(in the sense they will be welcome without needing to convert))

The Ethno part of Ethnoreligous is a shared heritage which means you need to be born into.  For example when I do a DNA test it came back 100% eastern European Jew.  I don't follow Judaism but nothing going to change the fact that my DNA connects me to that Ethnoreligous group.



Cyran said:
Pemalite said:

"Jews" aren't a race. Not in the strictest sense.

They represent an ethnoreligious group.

You absolutely can be an American born "jew".
You can literally decide tomorrow to be a Jew.
It's a religion... Aka. Judaism that adheres to the Torah, the first and oldest of the three Abrahamic religions, the others being Quran/Muslims and the Bible/Christians.

And just like Christianity and Islam, people can be indoctrinated into that religion.

So in my eyes, diversity doesn't include religions or cults or beliefs.

You sorta have to seperate the Religion from the Ethnoreligious.  You can follow the religion tomorrow (most rabbi and synagogues wont accept you through till you go through conversion.  It dumb but it not like Christianity who will accept anyone, Judaism generally require you to go through all these steps to convert if you want to be a member of a synagogue.  Some synagogue are insane for example I had a cousin and when they went to get marry by a rabbi they made them prove that her mother was jewish, her mother Mother was jewish and her Mother mother Mother was jewish before he would do the marriage.  They less strict with men (he only had to prove his mother was jewish and not go back multiple gens) because if the mother jewish then the child is jewish(in the sense they will be welcome without needing to convert))

The Ethno part of Ethnoreligous is a shared heritage which means you need to be born into.  For example when I do a DNA test it came back 100% eastern European Jew.  I don't follow Judaism but nothing going to change the fact that my DNA connects me to that Ethnoreligous group.

The amount of steps to join a religion doesn't change it from being a religion, it's still not a race.

Conversely... The other two Abrahamic religions also have "steps" to join. I.E. Baptism for example with Christianity, with some denominations going to extreme levels like abstinence and so forth... And other denominations forbidding marrying of non-Christians or those that dont adhere to that specific denomination.
https://www.thecrosspensacola.org/membership-process

Jews originate from the "israelites" and share common ancestry with other middle-eastern peoples like the Arabs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_of_Jews

Muslims can be even more extreme than Christians.

All three religions are cut from the same cloth, so it only makes sense that they share commonality with their rules like not eating pork.



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sundin13 said:
bdbdbd said:

If you want to see Americans on movies, tough luck; there's DEI hires with Asians, Africans and Europeans, with the occasional jew in them.

So, if Asians, Africans, Europeans and Jews can't qualify as Americans, who exactly can?

Americans. The vast majority of people in North America are Europeans, Africans and Asians. 



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Pemalite said:
Ryuu96 said:

Brits.

Edit - Wait. Shit. Europeans is listed there

Hold on let him cook, the only true Americans are Native Americans is what he is clearly saying, the rest are illegal occupiers, including the ancestors of Europeans, which is a huge portion of America.

"Jews" aren't a race. Not in the strictest sense.

They represent an ethnoreligious group.

You absolutely can be an American born "jew".
You can literally decide tomorrow to be a Jew.
It's a religion... Aka. Judaism that adheres to the Torah, the first and oldest of the three Abrahamic religions, the others being Quran/Muslims and the Bible/Christians.

And just like Christianity and Islam, people can be indoctrinated into that religion.

So in my eyes, diversity doesn't include religions or cults or beliefs.

It's ethnoreligious group, much like Hindus. In the US, it seems that the jews are considered an oppressed minority, whereas in Europe only a dead jew is a good jew - for the left atleast - because that's when you can call victimhood. The same people who chant "from river to sea", are people who are worried about increasing antisemitism. And that's wokeness.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

bdbdbd said:
sundin13 said:

So, if Asians, Africans, Europeans and Jews can't qualify as Americans, who exactly can?

Americans. The vast majority of people in North America are Europeans, Africans and Asians. 

Many of those Africans, Asians, Europeans and Jews are American, hence the confusion. Are you referring to indigenous groups here? How do you define who is American?



sundin13 said:
bdbdbd said:

Americans. The vast majority of people in North America are Europeans, Africans and Asians. 

Many of those Africans, Asians, Europeans and Jews are American, hence the confusion. Are you referring to indigenous groups here? How do you define who is American?

I'm talking about ethnicity, not where you were born or where you live. I know in USAn political rhetoric everyone needs to be an American with heavy identity politics. That's something that doesn't make any sense in wokeness. 



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

sundin13 said:
bdbdbd said:

If you want to see Americans on movies, tough luck; there's DEI hires with Asians, Africans and Europeans, with the occasional jew in them.

So, if Asians, Africans, Europeans and Jews can't qualify as Americans, who exactly can?

You hush, we all know that only straight white males and skimpy clad white females exist in America.  All those other races and nationalities are just projections of the woke mind.



Pemalite said:
Cyran said:

You sorta have to seperate the Religion from the Ethnoreligious.  You can follow the religion tomorrow (most rabbi and synagogues wont accept you through till you go through conversion.  It dumb but it not like Christianity who will accept anyone, Judaism generally require you to go through all these steps to convert if you want to be a member of a synagogue.  Some synagogue are insane for example I had a cousin and when they went to get marry by a rabbi they made them prove that her mother was jewish, her mother Mother was jewish and her Mother mother Mother was jewish before he would do the marriage.  They less strict with men (he only had to prove his mother was jewish and not go back multiple gens) because if the mother jewish then the child is jewish(in the sense they will be welcome without needing to convert))

The Ethno part of Ethnoreligous is a shared heritage which means you need to be born into.  For example when I do a DNA test it came back 100% eastern European Jew.  I don't follow Judaism but nothing going to change the fact that my DNA connects me to that Ethnoreligous group.

The amount of steps to join a religion doesn't change it from being a religion, it's still not a race.

Conversely... The other two Abrahamic religions also have "steps" to join. I.E. Baptism for example with Christianity, with some denominations going to extreme levels like abstinence and so forth... And other denominations forbidding marrying of non-Christians or those that dont adhere to that specific denomination.
https://www.thecrosspensacola.org/membership-process

Jews originate from the "israelites" and share common ancestry with other middle-eastern peoples like the Arabs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_of_Jews

Muslims can be even more extreme than Christians.

All three religions are cut from the same cloth, so it only makes sense that they share commonality with their rules like not eating pork.

I have to disagree with the Baptism for Christianity as you do not have to do it to be a Baptist.  Christianity is probably the most lose when it comes to traditions and practices since there are so many different denominations.  Those denominations just teach in a different style more than anything else but there are no criteria you need in order to call yourself one of those denonminations.