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Attractive character improve games (with cosmetics)...

True 38 67.86%
 
False 16 28.57%
 
No opinion 2 3.57%
 
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SvennoJ said:
mZuzek said:

Are superheroes super because they have muscles or because they have superpowers? Are superpowers reliant on muscles?

Superheroes play a fantasy role. People fantasize about good looking heroes, or playing as idolized good looking heroes.

Superpowers rely on fantasy, muscle tone is part of that fantasy.


Anyway broad chins, dunno why that's not a part of femininity. Nadja is one of my favorite characters atm

Watch the latest episode, fucking incredible. (S6 E9) https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33029995/?ref_=sr_t_3
The budget they must have had for that episode for costumes and make-up alone.

Muscles are hot on women as well


Ilona Maher should play Abbey in Tlou2!

Not Kaitlin Dever

She needs to bulk up.


Same applies to games as to movies. Attractive characters attract the audience. People pay more attention to fit good looking people, simple fact of biology. Want to sell more games/movies, make it more attractive to the majority.

Some of the best looking men out there could put on a wig and pass as a woman, Jared Leto for example and vice versa with women, Angelina Jolie in her prime could shave her head and Don a body suit and pass as a dude. 



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Another question, do younger looking characters improve movies/games? Imo no, but I'm older now.

Sigourney Weaver was age 28 while filming Alien 1



46 years old while filming Alien Resurrection, where she fit in much better imo (even though first movie is still the best)



In Alien Romulus the actor is only 25 playing a 21 year old.



I could not connect with her as a bad ass survivor. About as unbelievable as the Tomb Raider reboot. I was paying far more attention to the background detail which is excellent. She just felt like another Katnis Averdeen.

Same thing for male characters. Bruce Willis rocks, that's an action hero. Don't want no 20 year old kids for action heroes.

Seems male characters are left intact



This scene would loose all relevance if she wasn't pretty. 

And same for this, cloud makes one pretty girl. 😆 

 



LegitHyperbole said:

Beauty comes into that very heavily and our definitions of beauty are physically fit people who are good looking. It's all so very simple. 

No. That's your definition of beauty. Or the definition of beauty society put in your head. Not everyone is like you.



mZuzek said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Beauty comes into that very heavily and our definitions of beauty are physically fit people who are good looking. It's all so very simple. 

No. That's your definition of beauty. Or the definition of beauty society put in your head. Not everyone is like you.

I would not be 100% certain that it is completely a societal definition.  Have you ever read up on the link between the golden ratio and what many people find to be aesthetically pleasing ... 1.618 it may be as much mathematical as societal.  That said "to each their own" of course.  I just always found it interesting that the golden ratio even ties into "beauty".



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The_Yoda said:
mZuzek said:

No. That's your definition of beauty. Or the definition of beauty society put in your head. Not everyone is like you.

I would not be 100% certain that it is completely a societal definition.  Have you ever read up on the link between the golden ratio and what many people find to be aesthetically pleasing ... 1.618 it may be as much mathematical as societal.  That said "to each their own" of course.  I just always found it interesting that the golden ratio even ties into "beauty".

It's biological.

Fit people get more attention, good hunter gatherers / protectors.
Women with broad hips and big breasts get more attention, good for bearing and raising children.

What society has distorted is promoting slim bodies while nature gives preference to more rounded individuals. Rubenesque, Peter Paul Rubens knew what beauty was.




In ancient times 'society' pushed the ideal the other way:

8,000 year old statue found in Turkey


30,000 year old statue found in Autria "Venus von Willendorf"


Stone Age Venus figurines were totems of survival, not sex -- the bodies are not swollen as symbols of sex, but as symbols of survival. Study hypothesise that the overnourished woman became an ideal symbol of survival and beauty during episodes of starvation and climate change in Paleolithic Europe.


Yet wide hips, big breasts, muscle tone and symmetry (golden ratio) are all universal signs of a healthy person and thus desirable.



SvennoJ said:
mZuzek said:

Are superheroes super because they have muscles or because they have superpowers? Are superpowers reliant on muscles?

Superheroes play a fantasy role. People fantasize about good looking heroes, or playing as idolized good looking heroes.

Superpowers rely on fantasy, muscle tone is part of that fantasy.


Anyway broad chins, dunno why that's not a part of femininity. Nadja is one of my favorite characters atm

Watch the latest episode, fucking incredible. (S6 E9) https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33029995/?ref_=sr_t_3
The budget they must have had for that episode for costumes and make-up alone.

Muscles are hot on women as well


Ilona Maher should play Abbey in Tlou2!

Not Kaitlin Dever

She needs to bulk up.


Same applies to games as to movies. Attractive characters attract the audience. People pay more attention to fit good looking people, simple fact of biology. Want to sell more games/movies, make it more attractive to the majority.

The thing I don't understand, is why did we end up replacing actual women like Linda Hamilton/Sigourney Weaver, two actresses that played women with different types of strength of character? (Sarah Connor had a slightly physically built appearance and Ripley had more mental fortitude that you would normally see coming from heroic men).

I still to this day, idolise how great those two characters were in their respective franchises. They overcame the odds in their own ways, and they grew better as a result in a more organic way (a slow build-up from a femme damsel into a more independent and resolved woman). Current day femme characters like Rey didn't earn what they tried to obtain, and thus people like me feel less of a bond/attachment to said characters in multiple ways (Rey acts like a know it all, gets saved by deus ex machina time and time again, is always pitied, etc).

I do agree with your say though, we do need some more women with a more fit appearance. You can still have curvy gals with a bit of a build to them, but at the same time, we don't always need to have the same chin type and the same gaunt looking facial structures either (which is something Hollywood needs to learn, not us, because our tastes in appearances will naturally vary).



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

SvennoJ said:

Another question, do younger looking characters improve movies/games? Imo no, but I'm older now.

Sigourney Weaver was age 28 while filming Alien 1



46 years old while filming Alien Resurrection, where she fit in much better imo (even though first movie is still the best)



In Alien Romulus the actor is only 25 playing a 21 year old.



I could not connect with her as a bad ass survivor. About as unbelievable as the Tomb Raider reboot. I was paying far more attention to the background detail which is excellent. She just felt like another Katnis Averdeen.

Same thing for male characters. Bruce Willis rocks, that's an action hero. Don't want no 20 year old kids for action heroes.

Seems male characters are left intact

That Alien Romulus girl would make a great Ellie in a TLOU2 live action.



LegitHyperbole said:

That Alien Romulus girl would make a great Ellie in a TLOU2 live action.

Ellie's casting was good. Rain Carradine looks too 'innocent'. But that could be as she's cast as a damsel in distress, which Ellie is not. That could all be down to screenplay, acting and make-up, Bella Ramsey looks too 'innocent' as well at first glance, but did great in TloU part 1.



Chazore said:

The thing I don't understand, is why did we end up replacing actual women like Linda Hamilton/Sigourney Weaver, two actresses that played women with different types of strength of character? (Sarah Connor had a slightly physically built appearance and Ripley had more mental fortitude that you would normally see coming from heroic men).

I still to this day, idolise how great those two characters were in their respective franchises. They overcame the odds in their own ways, and they grew better as a result in a more organic way (a slow build-up from a femme damsel into a more independent and resolved woman). Current day femme characters like Rey didn't earn what they tried to obtain, and thus people like me feel less of a bond/attachment to said characters in multiple ways (Rey acts like a know it all, gets saved by deus ex machina time and time again, is always pitied, etc).

I do agree with your say though, we do need some more women with a more fit appearance. You can still have curvy gals with a bit of a build to them, but at the same time, we don't always need to have the same chin type and the same gaunt looking facial structures either (which is something Hollywood needs to learn, not us, because our tastes in appearances will naturally vary).

You say it much better :)

Yes Sarah Connor was great, especially her transition from The Terminator to Terminator 2. Similar to how Ripley evolved in the Alien series.

They also stand out more due to the ocean of damsel in distress casting in other movies. Waterworld for example. If a women isn't lead, she's helpless... That does feel more balanced nowadays.

And yes, casting needs to be more varied.