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Had a game disappear. 2 12.50%
 
Seen games delisted 5 31.25%
 
Both of the above 1 6.25%
 
Neither of the above 8 50.00%
 
Total:16

I bought Civ 6 on ps4, I know I bought it, I played a couple hundred turns and deleted of my system for space. I went back to my library recently on both PS4 and PS5 and it's nowhere. Not available for purchase or any game in my library. How did they manage this?

I'm all for digital games but if this is the a new thing that companies will do now. I often go to the store and games I want are demister, Greedfall for one was gone until it popped up for sale but to remove them from your library, how is this possible?

Oh and adjacent to the OP, this is happening...

"Two Californian gamers are suing Ubisoft in a proposed class action lawsuit over the developer and publisher's recent shutdown of racing game The Crew. Ubisoft released The Crew in December 2014 and shut down its servers after a decade due to “server infrastructure and licensing constraints.”

-From Google. 



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You sure you don't have Civ 6 hidden? If it's hidden, a game won't show in your library.

But this is one of the dangers of an all-digital future. Companies are the ones in charge of your products rather than yourself. Steam is getting ahead of a new law that requires digital storefronts to display that you're only purchasing a license of the game. Not the game itself.

Only proper digital store that 100% lets you OWN your digital games is GOG.



LegitHyperbole said:

I bought Civ 6 on ps4, I know I bought it, I played a couple hundred turns and deleted of my system for space. I went back to my library recently on both PS4 and PS5 and it's nowhere. Not available for purchase or any game in my library.

If it is not even available for purchase, you are doing something wrong. Try "sid meier" as search words:



You do not own your digital games, you own a license that gives you the right to play the game on the platform the licences is purchased for until revoked. I don't understand why so many people are surprised by this because this has always been the case with Digital as it requires an online connection on the users end and a server on the hosts end. It's expected that losing your games would not be common when it was new and trendy, but now that it has been standard and normalized for over a decade the consequences have become more noticeable as expected. Unfortunately many people hopped on the bandwagon and preferred the conveniences of digital without really weighing in the cons of it. On the flip side it is very interesting to see these law-suits and legal actions take place despite people not reading the ToS, which were designed and written to confuse people anyways. Digital product are technically just rentals without a return date.




Airaku said:

You do not own your digital games, you own a license that gives you the right to play the game on the platform the licences is purchased for until revoked. I don't understand why so many people are surprised by this because this has always been the case with Digital as it requires an online connection on the users end and a server on the hosts end. It's expected that losing your games would not be common when it was new and trendy, but now that it has been standard and normalized for over a decade the consequences have become more noticeable as expected. Unfortunately many people hopped on the bandwagon and preferred the conveniences of digital without really weighing in the cons of it. On the flip side it is very interesting to see these law-suits and legal actions take place despite people not reading the ToS, which were designed and written to confuse people anyways. Digital product are technically just rentals without a return date.

Yep, people enthusiastically signed their rights away in the name of convenience. And don't kid yourself that Gaben is any better than anybody else. Maybe you won't have to find out otherwise, but maybe you will. 

Some of these lawsuits are worth pursuing anyway. It would be good to have some case law establishing consumer rights, and an influx of lawsuits will occasionally lead to legislative and executive action on the subject. 



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Yes. Only place where it's much less of an issue is GoG. Since it's DRM free,but if you lose the download and the game is delisted then can still happen.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Airaku said:

You do not own your digital games, you own a license that gives you the right to play the game on the platform the licences is purchased for until revoked.

I mean, it's technically the same with physical. You own a license that is subject to copyright laws and tied to the disc/cartridge, sometimes also to online activation. If either or both are gone or deteriorate, so is your license, and you can't demand a replacement from the publisher.

Many PC games from the 2000s and 2010s are dead because of that, even to those who own the physical media.



 

 

 

 

 

Dunno but I recently redownloaded Deadpool game on my PS5, it's been delisted since 2017.



Hmm, pie.

G2ThaUNiT said:

You sure you don't have Civ 6 hidden? If it's hidden, a game won't show in your library.

But this is one of the dangers of an all-digital future. Companies are the ones in charge of your products rather than yourself. Steam is getting ahead of a new law that requires digital storefronts to display that you're only purchasing a license of the game. Not the game itself.

Only proper digital store that 100% lets you OWN your digital games is GOG.

I checked everything, hidden games and all and nothing. It's just gone. 



Conina said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I bought Civ 6 on ps4, I know I bought it, I played a couple hundred turns and deleted of my system for space. I went back to my library recently on both PS4 and PS5 and it's nowhere. Not available for purchase or any game in my library.

If it is not even available for purchase, you are doing something wrong. Try "sid meier" as search words:

Yup, it's there on the store on my phone all right but not my ps5. I should own it though.