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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Norion said:

Is it about the calendar since that determines if making a PS4 or Xbox One version of a game makes sense to make since the older those systems get the less people there are buying games on them. Black Ops 6 began development back in 2020, the PS4 and Xbox One were both very relevant then which is why they made versions for those systems but in 2024 the situation is completely different. I said before 2023 and cross-gen development made a lot more sense back in 2022 than it did in 2024 which is why the number of games releasing on the PS4/Xbox One keeps declining.

Pocketpair feeling that the Xbox One version wasn't really worth it making them not bother with a PS4 version makes more sense than Sony forcing them to not make one since the impact on PS5 sales from that would've been basically non-existent. 

To get it on PS4 from Xbone would literally be a quick copy and paste job because, PS4 is a fair bit more powerful than Xbone and they have the same architecture. It would require next to no money because your just moving the game over from the Xbone dev kit to the PS4 dev kit. Your telling me that the costs of updating the game on the PS4 outweighs the amount of sales they would get? Free sales that required next to no development costs? Look at all the third party games on PS4 this year. Visions of Mana. COD BO6. Sonic+Shadow generations. Diablo 4 vessel of hatred, just to name afew. All those publishers saw value in PS4 but your telling me Pocketpair didn't?

It's not just about the creation of the port and the monetary costs, it's mostly about adding another version of the game they'd have to support long term which would take time and resources. Some small amount of people would've bought a PS4 version in September but then sales would've quickly diminished to basically nothing so they'd be looking at slightly higher sales on Playstation for a few weeks or so but then basically no difference for 2025 onward while still having to keep supporting the PS4 version for a while unless they cut support really quickly which would make them look bad.

For the part about games that did get a PS4 version last year you'd have a point if lots of developers hadn't moved on from the PS4 by 2024 with lots of games not releasing on it but that very clearly happened so singling out Pocketpair and acting like they're being unusual is not accurate.

Last edited by Norion - on 08 January 2025

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Norion said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

To get it on PS4 from Xbone would literally be a quick copy and paste job because, PS4 is a fair bit more powerful than Xbone and they have the same architecture. It would require next to no money because your just moving the game over from the Xbone dev kit to the PS4 dev kit. Your telling me that the costs of updating the game on the PS4 outweighs the amount of sales they would get? Free sales that required next to no development costs? Look at all the third party games on PS4 this year. Visions of Mana. COD BO6. Sonic+Shadow generations. Diablo 4 vessel of hatred, just to name afew. All those publishers saw value in PS4 but your telling me Pocketpair didn't?

It's not just about the creation of the port and the monetary costs, it's mostly about adding another version of the game they'd have to support long term which would take time and resources. Some small amount of people would've bought a PS4 version in September but then sales would've quickly diminished to basically nothing so they'd be looking at slightly higher sales on Playstation for a few weeks or so but then basically no difference for 2025 onward while still having to keep supporting the PS4 version for a while unless they cut support really quickly which would make them look bad.

For the part about games that did get a PS4 version last year you'd have a point if lots of developers hadn't moved on from the PS4 by 2024 with lots of games not releasing on it but that very clearly happened so singling out Pocketpair and acting like they're being unusual is not accurate.

Well that's because the PS4 can't run games like DD2 and DA:Veilguard, but it can run Palworld because the Xbone can.  I forgot a game that released last year too too, Star wars Jedi Survivor. It's still a lot of developers and publishers seeing value in a platform your telling me has a "miniscule benefit". If they are doing the updates for the Xbone than all they have to do is paste them over to the PS4, no dev costs again because the architecture is practically the same. Your acting like PS4 would be the only last gen version that they have to develop updates for. I don't know what else to say. PS4 was an enormously successful console with a huge player base still, and will keep getting some third party games for the next few years. Your acting like it's already dead but it still generates Sony hundreds of millions of revenue



Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Norion said:

It's not just about the creation of the port and the monetary costs, it's mostly about adding another version of the game they'd have to support long term which would take time and resources. Some small amount of people would've bought a PS4 version in September but then sales would've quickly diminished to basically nothing so they'd be looking at slightly higher sales on Playstation for a few weeks or so but then basically no difference for 2025 onward while still having to keep supporting the PS4 version for a while unless they cut support really quickly which would make them look bad.

For the part about games that did get a PS4 version last year you'd have a point if lots of developers hadn't moved on from the PS4 by 2024 with lots of games not releasing on it but that very clearly happened so singling out Pocketpair and acting like they're being unusual is not accurate.

Well that's because the PS4 can't run games like DD2 and DA:Veilguard, but it can run Palworld because the Xbone can.  I forgot a game that released last year too too, Star wars Jedi Survivor. It's still a lot of developers and publishers seeing value in a platform your telling me has a "miniscule benefit". If they are doing the updates for the Xbone than all they have to do is paste them over to the PS4, no dev costs again because the architecture is practically the same. Your acting like PS4 would be the only last gen version that they have to develop updates for. I don't know what else to say. PS4 was an enormously successful console with a huge player base still, and will keep getting some third party games for the next few years. Your acting like it's already dead but it still generates Sony hundreds of millions of revenue

There are plenty of games that released last year that could've ran on the PS4 and Xbox One but weren't released on them and once again it's not just about the cost, it's the extra time they'd have to spend supporting another version of the game that would've barely sold anything after the first few weeks. Acting as if they'd have to do nothing but copy and paste things is absurd.

It is just about dead in terms of people buying new games on it which is the main point. All you have to do is look at just how many games are skipping gen 8 consoles now to see the obvious trend. I can assure you that the vast majority of projects that started development in 2024 won't be releasing on them.



Norion said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Well that's because the PS4 can't run games like DD2 and DA:Veilguard, but it can run Palworld because the Xbone can.  I forgot a game that released last year too too, Star wars Jedi Survivor. It's still a lot of developers and publishers seeing value in a platform your telling me has a "miniscule benefit". If they are doing the updates for the Xbone than all they have to do is paste them over to the PS4, no dev costs again because the architecture is practically the same. Your acting like PS4 would be the only last gen version that they have to develop updates for. I don't know what else to say. PS4 was an enormously successful console with a huge player base still, and will keep getting some third party games for the next few years. Your acting like it's already dead but it still generates Sony hundreds of millions of revenue

There are plenty of games that released last year that could've ran on the PS4 and Xbox One but weren't released on them and once again it's not just about the cost, it's the extra time they'd have to spend supporting another version of the game that would've barely sold anything after the first few weeks. Acting as if they'd have to do nothing but copy and paste things is absurd.

It is just about dead in terms of people buying new games on it which is the main point. All you have to do is look at just how many games are skipping gen 8 consoles now to see the obvious trend. I can assure you that the vast majority of projects that started development in 2024 won't be releasing on them.

The only one I can think of is Lego Horizon adventures. How many more are there? You could've at least named a few if there was so many



Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Norion said:

There are plenty of games that released last year that could've ran on the PS4 and Xbox One but weren't released on them and once again it's not just about the cost, it's the extra time they'd have to spend supporting another version of the game that would've barely sold anything after the first few weeks. Acting as if they'd have to do nothing but copy and paste things is absurd.

It is just about dead in terms of people buying new games on it which is the main point. All you have to do is look at just how many games are skipping gen 8 consoles now to see the obvious trend. I can assure you that the vast majority of projects that started development in 2024 won't be releasing on them.

The only one I can think of is Lego Horizon adventures. How many more are there? You could've at least named a few if there was so many

Literally every game that had a Switch version applies some examples being A Plucky Squire, Rain Code, Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream and so on.



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Norion said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

The only one I can think of is Lego Horizon adventures. How many more are there? You could've at least named a few if there was so many

Literally every game that had a Switch version applies some examples being A Plucky Squire, Rain Code, Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream and so on.

That list all looks like small developers with small games that didn't have the resources to invest in an Xbone/PS4 version. It's 2025 and we've already had our first big title confirmed for PS4 in hello kitty island adventure. Literally 9/10 days into the year and we get a game announced to be coming to the PS4. It is only you and the people liking your posts that don't see PS4 as a valuable platform to game sales



Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Norion said:

Literally every game that had a Switch version applies some examples being A Plucky Squire, Rain Code, Sword Art Online: Fractured Daydream and so on.

That list all looks like small developers with small games that didn't have the resources to invest in an Xbone/PS4 version. It's 2025 and we've already had our first big title confirmed for PS4 in hello kitty island adventure. Literally 9/10 days into the year and we get a game announced to be coming to the PS4. It is only you and the people liking your posts that don't see PS4 as a valuable platform to game sales

That was announced back in June so that's inaccurate. I really don't get why you're insistent on denying the very clear trend of developers moving on from the PS4 and Xbox One. All you have to do is look at this page and see that most of the games listed that are releasing on the PS5 and Xbox Series aren't releasing on their predecessors so it's obviously not just me and those people but also most of the industry at this point. 

Last edited by Norion - on 10 January 2025

Norion said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

That list all looks like small developers with small games that didn't have the resources to invest in an Xbone/PS4 version. It's 2025 and we've already had our first big title confirmed for PS4 in hello kitty island adventure. Literally 9/10 days into the year and we get a game announced to be coming to the PS4. It is only you and the people liking your posts that don't see PS4 as a valuable platform to game sales

That was announced back in June so that's inaccurate. I really don't get why you're insistent on denying the very clear trend of developers moving on from the PS4 and Xbox One. All you have to do is look at this page and see that most of the games listed that are releasing on the PS5 and Xbox Series aren't releasing on their predecessors so it's obviously not just me and those people but also most of the industry at this point. 

Ok your right it was announced back in June. My fault, but it is still a game releasing on PS4 in 2025 nonetheless.  I'm not denying that the trend is moving away from last gen, but that PS4 is still relevant. There's nothing I can say to prove it. The only thing is to just watch the games keep coming to the PS4 and let that speak for itself



Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Norion said:

That was announced back in June so that's inaccurate. I really don't get why you're insistent on denying the very clear trend of developers moving on from the PS4 and Xbox One. All you have to do is look at this page and see that most of the games listed that are releasing on the PS5 and Xbox Series aren't releasing on their predecessors so it's obviously not just me and those people but also most of the industry at this point. 

Ok your right it was announced back in June. My fault, but it is still a game releasing on PS4 in 2025 nonetheless. I'm not denying that the trend is moving away from last gen, but that PS4 is still relevant. There's nothing I can say to prove it. The only thing is to just watch the games keep coming to the PS4 and let that speak for itself

I'd say it's mainly relevant in terms of people playing older games like GTA 5 and Fortnite on it, not so much in terms of new game sales at this point but sure we can wait and see how things look by the start of 2026.