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Tuulikk said:
DMeisterJ,

if Wii has more third party million sellers than PS3 at the end of this year even through PS3 gets the best third party support of those two, is that good enough in your eyes?

Or does it have to be a special percentage of of hardcore titles amongst the million sellers also?

Does all the third party games have to sell more than the PS3 ones to for you to be happy?

What will it take for you to not look down on Wii?

Lolz

I don't look 'down' on the Wii.

I think the system is fine, but the TP support on the system isn't.

I look at quality TP support, and sales, not just one or the other.



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Slightly off topic:

I must admit my opinion of why I believe the Wii is doing so good and why the PS3 may have a chance at passing it or I might have a stroke, the beginning is obvious but read on.

Note: Don't take anything too seriously, this is just an analysis.

1.The price is a biggy obviously, looking at the PS3 which started off with over twice the price and still has about twice the price, is behind 2:1 to the Wii.

2. Games is another thing, the Wii has some amazing games out right now that appeal to traditional and casual gamers. The Wii also has the majority of their best games out from the looks of it. The PS3 doesn't have a single one of it's best hitters out yet. The ratio is still 2:1 though. How is this possible? Shouldn't the Wii be at least 3 or 4:1 over the PS3 like it was back in 2006?

The PS3 has had a lot of improvement since then, but almost all of it's games are multiplatform to the 360 which had the larger user base. The 360 and PS3 share many of the same interests in games as well conflicting which system a gamer of those tastes will buy. The RROD deal definitely helped the PS3, but at the same time the PS2 was hurting the PS3 as well. The PS3 had an extremely rocky year, but managed to turn 2007 into profit if just barely.

While the Wii has broken sales records, it's also the first system to have so many of it's best IP's out in such a short amount of time. I can't think of another console that put so many of it's best games out so fast. Obviously Nintendo wanted the lead, but was that really a wise thing for Ninty to do? Price drops seem to improve the PS3's sales very well. if the Wii drops to $200, will it sell substantially better? It's already obviously the most affordable system by far, so could price even effect people that don't find the Wii appealing? Nintendo wouldn't lose money if they dropped the Wii to $200, so what's stopping them?

The PS3 has gained a larger user base as well compared to when the Wii put out TP and a few other well known IP's when both systems first launched. This will increase the sales better percentage-wise for the PS3's big hitters.

I know the Wii still has some games ahead of it, but the Wii's image has already been made clear to gamers. many traditional gamers may be done at this point with the Wii if they didn't like SSBB, MP3, SMG, or TP because those were the games that got them to get a Wii in the first place. I'm keeping my Wii, but that doesn't mean every traditional gamer will if they didn't find SSBB, MP3, TP and SMG appealing. To answer your possible question, No, I love SSBB and SMG, but I was however disappointed with MP3 and TP.



This will only take a moment of your time. *steals your watch*

"Nintendo wouldn't lose money if they dropped the Wii to $200, so what's stopping them?"

Think about that one RREEEAAALLL hard. It might help to look at NA supply shortages while you're cogitating.



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off topic: I'm curious as to what cogitating means.

This is also a money post. :)



This will only take a moment of your time. *steals your watch*

I'll add to RolStoppable and Final-Fan's points by adding that a low price can't be the only reason the Wii is outselling its competitors. After all, in Europe the 360, not the Wii, is the cheapest console, especially since many retailers bundle in free games. Despite that, the 360 still can't reach the PS3, let alone the Wii.
Although I do question RolStoppable's assertion that Eastern developers will hop on board sooner than their Western counterparts. I know that's a popular opinion, but since EA and Ubisoft have already been shifting plenty of resources to the console, and quite a few of the smaller houses have also been doing the same, I think it's more fair to say that both sides of the Pacific will be concentrating on the Wii at about the same time.



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I have to admit that Wii is doing so well this generation. Congratulations to Nintendo for their success with this great console. I personally do not want one for myself because the style of game play does not suite my gaming needs. It makes me happy to know that the company that got me into games is still going strong!



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BLOODLINEZ said:
I have to admit that Wii is doing so well this generation. Congratulations to Nintendo for their success with this great console. I personally do not want one for myself because the style of game play does not suite my gaming needs. It makes me happy to know that the company that got me into games is still going strong!

 We need more HD gaming fans like youself.   Appreciative of Nintendos efforts instead of threatended by them.



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RolStoppable said:
noname2200 said:


The three main reasons why I think that Japanese publishers will fully back the Wii sooner than Western developers:

1. Wii userbase in Japan: It's more than twice as much as the PS3/360 userbase combined. Most Japanese publishers still get a significant share of their sales from Japan.

2. Western games mostly rely on realistic graphics while Japanese games most of the time have a cartoonish art style. Obviously the 360/PS3 are better choices to make games with realistic looking graphics.

3. The DS: While Japanese publishers are fully supporting the DS with quality software now, Western publishers really don't release many good games for the handheld. It seems like Western publishers only support Nintendo if they really have to.

Regards EA and Ubisoft: They rushed some games to the market early after the Wii's launch, but since then they didn't release many games. I also don't get my hopes up for their new founded casual divisions because the games produced by them may very well be nothing more than cash-ins. Besides that, there are lot of big franchises from EA and Ubisoft which didn't get a Wii version and haven't announced one yet.

Also, the majority of good 3rd party games for the Wii so far are from Japanese publishers. I think this supports my point that Western publishers will be the ones who will play catch up.


 You make some very good points, but I still have a few disagreements with them. It's true that many Japanese developers rely primarily on their home market, so I concede that the majority of Japanese console games will be coming out on that system. But my problem is that many Japanese games, especially those made by the smaller and mid-sized developers, often don't get localized here. Not to be too nationalisitic, but if a game doesn't come out in my region for me to play it, it's dead to me. Unless it's Mother 3, in which case I send glares of hate at Nintendo, but that's a different story.

Point two is a bit of an overbroad generalization, but its generally more accurate than not, so I can see that as a good reason. Reason three though is something I can't agree with. Its true that the DS developers are disproportionately Japanese, but I believe that that's always been the case with handhelds. In fact, I'm pretty sure the PSP is equally favored by Eastern developers: it just seems different because some of the big-name games here in the West are developed by Western developers (Grand Theft Auto and God of War are the two big Western ones I can think of). I might be wrong about this though, so if I am, please let me know, and I shall adjust accordingly. 

As for Ubisoft and EA, I actually think you're half wrong. True, their early offerings were rushed pieces of junk, but I sincerely think that's starting to change. Ubisoft has released the two Raving Rabbids games which, although not everyone's cup of tea, are hardly low-budget shovelware, despite being in the mini-game genre. If the rumors are true, they've also scrapped Red Steel 2, a Wii-exclusive, because they were dissatisfied with its progress and wanted to start over. If this is true, it tells me that they do care about their Wii games. 

EA is even more of a surprise. Medal of Honors Heroes 2 may have started as a port of a PSP game, but its hardly a cheap cash-in. The controls are incredibly refined, better even than Nintendo's own Metroid. It also features a pretty good 32-player online mode, something I didn't think was possible before I played it, and which probably took a lot of effort to set up. They're also releasing the Wii-exclusive Boom Blox in two weeks, which all of the reviewers are unanimously proclaiming to be a great game, and they're releasing Spore for the Wii, which so far makes it the only console version announced. They're even moving more of their sports franchises to the system.

Looking at my own collection, I'll concede that its currently Japanese-dominated. But if you take out the Nintendo games, its actually close to being 1:1. Obviously, the same is not true for you, or you'd have a different opinion, but I think its incorrect at this point to say that Western developers in general look down on the system. 

P.S. Sorry for the essay, I'll try to be more succinct next time. No promises, though.



Viper1 said:
BLOODLINEZ said:
I have to admit that Wii is doing so well this generation. Congratulations to Nintendo for their success with this great console. I personally do not want one for myself because the style of game play does not suite my gaming needs. It makes me happy to know that the company that got me into games is still going strong!

We need more HD gaming fans like youself. Appreciative of Nintendos efforts instead of threatended by them.


You have to give credit where credit is due man. I love every console eventhough I do not own them all. The thing that is not fair is when people talk down to the Wii. It is a console that is exploring a different area in gaming with great success. The Wii is creating a pathway for the advancement of all the future consoles.



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I lol'd at Snakes post and quote being iggy'd for a while.

Dj was still claiming that Nintendo has an issue with 3rd parties...

I can't seem to grasp what his issue is seeing as how it's as vauge as saying "why?" to a compounded sentance.

I wish I could give him some level of rebute but I don't even know why he's asking or if he's asking.. more like claiming but I'm not sure what his point is.

In a sense he has 1 foot through the door. XD

Any, yes huge numbers. XD

Snake what month was that for March 08? If it is, then that is amazing considering brawl was released in march.



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