Honestly probably would have been better if trump had won back in 2020 instead. At least we would be rid of him by January instead of dealing with him till 2028

Am I to understand that Kamala lost because Hillary Clinton was mean to Trump supporters? Or do we have something possibly more relevant to this particular campaign?

That's the thing though, the Dems are tied to "the left" in people's minds whether they like it or not. It didn't matter that Harris steered clear of that sort of thing in the last few months leading up to the day, the baggage of the last ten years was there in people's minds regardless, and conservative messaging made sure to connect the two.

It's not fair, but it's how things are.

There's honestly not much Harris could do, she was tied to an unpopular regime and a platform that had lost touched with a lot of the population.

The silver lining is, the pendulum swings both ways, and it's unlikely Trump will manage to fix much of what he claims he will, so if Dems play their cards right, they could win back power in 2028.

But to do so they're going to have to go back to the drawing board and rethink their strategy, because the current one isn't working.

Not because of that particular comment, of course.

More that both times Trump's base was underestimated as a few malcontents who could be scolded, shamed and dismissed, only to then turn out to be far bigger and more powerful than expected. 

I feel like you're blaming this on internet shit. Sure I do all those things you said but I'm not a politician or of any power in the party. I'm just doing what the Right has done to my side for decades and I don't see what that has to do with the presidential race. Just seems more like this shit from Legite where you say "oh Kamala is such a liar" right before "well I mean Trump says lies but he's dumb so he's not a liar". The left has to handhold all the right voters while they get called groomers and commies. 

That's the thing, I feel like in today's social media driven world we spend so much time online that "internet shit" can't be separated from the rest of lives as easily as it could be say 15 or even 10 years ago. People, especially the younger generation, are almost constantly plugged into social media.

Nancy, here's a tissue.

I feel I should clarify; I'm not trying to just stir the pot here, so I do apologize if my posts came off that way. In retrospect, I should have been more measured.

I was simply speaking from a place of frustration. I'm not a fan of Trumpism, but we really shouldn't be finding ourselves in a situation where someone like Trump can be considered a preferable option in the first place.

I agree.

A new level of lunacy started after that loss and so much BS became normalised. Trump would’ve been “responsible” for inflation too.

Yes yes, I am still coping

I'll extend an olive branch: I totally get it, something's gone wrong. But I can't help but be frustrated when people on the right in this very thread make shitty posts like the one a couple above. That's totally dismissive and derisive but for some reason it's only the left who has to watch their rhetoric. The right has figured out how to make the shitty rhetoric a feature rather than a bug and it is wholly frustrating. People of positions of power on the right made jokes about the attack on Paul Pelosi while the democratic party in its entirety gets blamed if someone random on facebook does the same for Trump's assassination attempts. 

Here's a simple example. see if any republican on TV ever calls it the democratic party, no instead they call it the democrat party as a little insult every time. Or mispronounces people's names or says "Barack Houssein Obama". Is there anything like that from the left that is from positions of power rather than just random left internet users?