Kamala lied and I'd say in a more scummy way than trump. She ran ads in different states with different promises that contradicted the ads ran in other states. Ones where she'd say she funding for Isreal and then in a Jewish population say she believes Isreal has the right to defend itself and support would be given. 

Trump doesn't know what he's saying half the time, I don't think he intentionally lies, he's just really dumb and self centered. Kamala lies felt more scummy cause she's supposed to be the mature one, Trump is the idiot everyone can laugh at, somehow he gets away with lying. Like he said at one point, he could shoot someone in times square and he'd still have support the next day.  

This.  This is why you lose.  

I understand you're coping and seething right now.  But if liberals ever want to win anything again, you must be retrospective.   

The problem is more that middle America isn't connecting with reality.

The reality is the best days are behind us. The Democrats seem to try to find a way to navigate the looming energy/water/environmental/refugee crises. The Republicans get the vote on promising the impossible, traveling back in time.

Education has failed in the USA and things will only get harder. Sticking your head in the sand and build a wall around it isn't going to solve anything.

I see you've returned after running away the first time around from being questioned by members in this thread. 👍

+ Social Media Imo is a really big problem, so easy to spread bullshit nowadays, have people believing a 5 second TikTok video without even questioning it. Social media has rotted peoples brains and destroyed their critical thinking skills and nothing is done about the misinformation. People ought to be taught how to navigate social media in schools, how to spot fake shit, how to question everything, double check with other sources, etc.

Ironically the energy, water and environmental crisis in the future will make the refugee situation even worse when thousands of people are escaping/moving from their homes due to unliveable conditions but fuck the Democrats for trying to invest in green energy (which provides jobs) whilst at the same time drilling an insane amount of oil...Lol.

The solutions I'm hearing are that Democrats should lie, throw minorities under the bus and fuck the environment.

Speaking of that, May I be unbanned from the Ukraine thread? I will make sure not to repost anything from social media and will keep quiet unless I have something cogent to say. It's a different world soon with Trump at the helm and I wanna be able to discuss his moves that'll effect Europe of which I am a citizen. 

Yeah after being dogpiled by 7 people and dogwalking them back to "muh abortion", I needed a mental break.

You should try it some time.  It's gonna be a long, long 4 years.

I can't do that, Bandorr has the power, I don't, I'm probably not going to be Mod for very long anyway.

I don't personally disagree but let me ask you this.  How are liberals going to create legislative change when they don't hold office?  At some point you have to win.  And to be clear, I do not personally agree with the following, but middle America hates things such as easy citizenship, reparation talks, gun control discussion, mpg mandates, CRT, debt forgiveness, trans in sports, etc., etc. 

Lose the battle but win the war is something liberals need to wrap their head around.  Liberals will never hold power as long as they push things middle America hates.  That my friend, is REALITY.

Yeah after being dogpiled by 7 people and dogwalking them back to "muh abortion", I needed a mental break.

You should try it some time.  It's gonna be a long, long 4 years.