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Artificial intelligence unleashes terror in killing fields of Gaza

In its latest episode, The Listening Post explores how Israel’s killing campaign of Palestinians has relied on artificial intelligence to choose its targets. A dystopian nightmare serves as a marketing campaign for technology flawed by design and deepens the global digital divide.

‘Two genocides do not make one right’

As we previously reported, German police have shut down a pro-Palestine conference in Berlin.

Yanis Varoufakis, an economist and former Greek finance minister who was also scheduled to speak at the event, told Al Jazeera the official explanation was that “a crime may be committed during these proceedings”.

“This is minority report, science fiction. They are not stopping it because of some crime that had been committed but because they think that if they don’t … then a crime might be committed,” Varoufakis said. “I have to say that the German authorities seem to have lost their mind, they are completely out of control.”

Varoufakis warned that Germany is increasingly being drawn into a “trap” set by the Israeli prime minister. “The German government supposedly claims the two-state solution is its preferred solution outcome and yet they are fully behind a Netanyahu government which is doing its utmost to murder any chance of a two-state solution,” he said.

“I am very fearful that my German friends, the people of Germany, are being drawn into this trap whereby they are going to have another complicity to genocide on their collective consciousness. “My message to them, is how much Palestinian bloods needs to be spilled before you give up on the idea that Palestinian blood is going to wash away the sense of guilt that you carry over the Holocaust,” Varoufakis added.

“Two genocides do not make one right.”

Germany trying to ‘silence’ witnesses, says Palestinian doctor banned from entry

As we’ve reported, German police in Berlin cancelled a pro-Palestine conference on Friday and barred a British-Palestinian plastic surgeon, Ghassan Abu Sittah, from entering the country and participating.

Abu Sittah told Al Jazeera that he was held by German officials for “three and a half hours” and questioned about his time working in Gaza and his testimony to the International Criminal Court as part of South Africa’s case against Israel.

“I was told that even if I participated [in the conference] once back in the UK by Zoom or by sending a recorded video that would make me in violation of German law. The ludicrous excuse was that they could not ensure the safety of participants of that conference and that’s why they were shutting the conference down,” he said.

“[It’s] as if Germany wants to prove the Nicaraguan case that it is an accomplice to the genocide in Gaza; Germany is trying to silence the witnesses and that’s what accomplices do, they bury the evidence.”

Germany issues Varoufakis with political activity ban

Germany has issued a political activity ban on former Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis, preventing him from visiting the country or participating via Zoom in a three-day conference in Berlin to discuss the war on Gaza.

He was expected to participate in a three-day conference in Berlin on Friday to discuss Palestine and the Middle East, but the conference was interrupted by authorities before the scheduled address.

Varoufakis has shared excerpts of his address for the conference before it was cancelled by authorities on his website, where he condemned the actions of both Israeli forces and Palestinian groups.

“Sadly, the whole of the German political system has decided not to allow this,” he said.

“I say to them: You want to silence us. To ban us. To demonise us. To accuse us. You, therefore, leave us with no choice but to meet your ridiculous accusations with our own rational accusations. You chose this. Not us.”

Gaza death toll rises

At least 33,686 Palestinians have been killed and 76,309 wounded in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7, its Health Ministry says. The ministry added that 52 people were killed and 95 injured in the past 24 hours.

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UAVs launched from Iran bound for Israel: Reports

We are getting reports that UAVs have been launched from Iran and are headed for Israel. Israel’s Channel 12 TV news reports that Iran has launched dozens of pilotless aircraft at targets in Israel and that their flight time was expected to take hours.

An expert interviewed by the channel, retired General Amos Yadlin, said the drones were equipped with 20kg of explosives each and that Israel’s air defences were ready to shoot them down.

Barak Ravid, a political reporter for Axios, posted on X that Iran has launched an attack against Israel using dozens of drones, citing four US and Israeli officials.

White House says Iran has begun airborne attack against Israel

Washington says Iran has begun an airborne attack against Israel, which is likely to unfold over several hours.

National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said in a statement that President Joe Biden is regularly updated by his national security team and is in constant communication with Israeli officials, US partners and allies.

Israeli airspace set to close

Israeli airspace will be closed to arrivals and departures as of 22:30 GMT, according to the national airports authority.

Iraq closes its airspace

Iraq’s Transport Ministry has announced that the country’s airspace is now closed. The management of Erbil International Airport also confirmed in a news statement that the decision to close Iraqi airspace also included the Iraq’s Kurdish region.

Jordan’s air defence ready to shoot down any Iranian aircraft that violates airspace

Reuters, citing two regional security sources, reports that Jordan’s air defences are ready to intercept and shoot down any Iranian drones or aircraft that violates its airspace. The sources said the army was also in a state of high alert and that radar systems were monitoring drone activity.

Syria puts ground-to-air defence systems around capital, major bases on high alert: Report

Reuters, citing army sources, reports that Syria has put its Russian-made Pantsir ground-to-air defence systems on high alert around the capital Damascus and major bases in the event of Israeli strikes.

The sources said they expected Israel would respond to any attack from Iran by targeting army bases and installations where pro-Iranian militia are based.

Lebanon announces temporary closure of its airspace

The Lebanese government says it will reopen its airspace at 7am local time (04:00 GMT).

The IRGC has released a statement

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has released a statement saying: “We launched an operation using drones and missiles in response to the Zionist entity’s crime of targeting the Iranian consulate in Syria. “The operation was carried out with dozens of missiles and drones to strike specific targets in the occupied territories.”

Iran has launched a direct attack from Iranian soil: Israeli military

Israeli military spokesperson Daniel Hagari has issued a statement in which he said, “We are closely monitoring Iranian killer drones that are en route to Israel sent by Iran”. “This is a severe and dangerous escalation. Our defensive and offensive capabilities are at the highest level of readiness ahead of this large-scale attack from Iran”.

‘The malicious Zionist regime will be punished’: Khamenei

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, made the statement in a post on X alongside a video in which he stated that the Israeli “regime” is all “malice, evil and error”.

Sunak condemns Iran’s attack against Israel

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has condemned Iran’s attack on Israel as “reckless”, adding that Britain would “continue to stand up for Israel’s security”.

“Alongside our allies, we are urgently working to stabilise the situation and prevent further escalation. No one wants to see more bloodshed,” Sunak said in a statement.

Then stop supporting genocide....

Iran has launched cruise missiles at Israel: Israeli media

Israel’s Channel 12 reports that cruise missiles have now been launched and that they have a shorter flight time than drones. The channel also states that a third wave of Iranian drones has been launched towards Israel.

Iran warns countries against allowing Israeli attacks via airspace, territory: Report


Meanwhile protests continue

Pro-Palestinian protests take place in Italy, UK, Germany, US

Pro-Palestinian protesters march from Russell Square to Parliament Square as part of a national day of action for Palestine, in London, UK, April 13, 2024. Protesters urge the British government to stop arms trade with Israel and call for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza

People take part in a flash mob in Piazzetta Nilo to denounce the ongoing conflict in Palestine, using the words and voices of the main poets of the Palestinian resistance, such as Mueen Bsyso, Fadwa Tuqan and Mahmoud Darwish, in Naples, Italy, April 12, 2024

Participants carry a banner reading ‘Stop the genocide in Gaza’ as they walk in front of the Berlin Cathedral, left, and the TV tower, right, during a rally in reaction to the ban of the ‘Palestine Congress’ in Berlin, Germany, April 13, 2024. A ‘Palestine Congress’ was announced to be held from April 12 to 14, 2024 in the German capital of Berlin

Police officers clash with protesters calling for a ceasefire in Gaza near Herald Square in New York City, US, April 12, 2024

How Gaza is changing US campuses

For more than five months now, students across the United States have been rallying in support of Palestinians as they face genocide at the hands of the Israeli army. It is increasingly clear that more and more young Americans view advocacy for Palestine in the same way as political activist Angela Davis does, as “a moral litmus test for the world”.

Mobilisation is no easy task – students supporting Palestinian liberation have been stabbed, shot, run over and sprayed with chemicals. They have been suspended, arrested and disciplined. They have had to rely on their own labour and the limited funds they have been able to raise for their protest actions.

In contrast, pro-Israel students have well-established donor networks, campus Hillels, and the ear of mainstream media to amplify their claims that pro-Palestinian activism is anti-Semitic.

And Gaza doesn't get a break either

Israeli attacks kill 19, wounded more than 200 in last 24 hours in Nuseirat: Gaza Media Office

On Telegram, the Government Media Office says that the majority of the victims of these attacks in the central Gaza Strip were women and children.

The attacks occurred on the following locations, according to the office:

  • Nuseirat Joint School, the bombing of the
  • Nuseirat Girls School, the bombing of the
  • Nuseirat Preparatory Boys School,
  • The homes of the Ashour, Nasar, al-Taweel and Qashlan families, in addition to several other homes.

The martyrs and wounded were transferred to Al-Aqsa Martyrs and al-Awda hospitals. The office condemned the attacks and said that it hold the Israeli and American governments responsible for them.

What has happened to Nuseirat refugee camp?

The camp in Deir el-Balah, central Gaza, has been the target of Israeli raids and attacks over the past few days. Here is a look at some of the recent developments there:

  • In the early hours of April 10, Israeli attacks on the camp killed 14 Palestinians, including children and women.
  • Early on April 11, the Israeli army launched its first ground operation into the camp, attacking two mosques in the camp and a UN-run school and a Malaysian school, killing at least four people.
  • The operation was undertaken by the Nahal Brigade, supported by the Israeli Air Force from the air and also by the Israeli Navy gunboats off the coast.
  • On April 12, the Israeli military bombarded the camp with artillery and air raids, injuring at least 70 people.
  • A group of journalists were targeted in the attacks. Sami Shehadeh, a journalist with Turkish broadcaster TRT, had his foot amputated after being wounded.
  • On April 13, the attacks on the camp continued, with the Gaza Media Office reporting 19 killed and more than 200 wounded in 24 hours.

UNICEF chief denounces West Bank violence

On X, Catherine Russel, head of the UN’s children’s relief fund, says she is “very concerned about the spike in violence in the West Bank”. Israeli settlers have been attacking occupied West Bank villages since yesterday, after an Israeli teenager went missing and was later found dead.

In these attacks, 19 Palestinians were injured today, and yesterday 30 were injured while one was killed, shot dead by Israeli settlers. “So far this year, 35 Palestinian & 2 Israeli children have been killed in the West Bank”, Russel added. “All forms of violence against children must stop now”.

Tehran fires ballistic missiles at targets inside Israel: Report

Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency, quoting an informed source, reports that a batch of ballistic missiles was launched towards targets in Israel.

Houthis launch drones at Israel in coordination with Iran: Security agency

We can now report that Yemen’s Houthi rebels have launched multiple drones at Israel in coordination with Iran, according to the security firm Ambrey. The company added that the projectiles were likely timed to reach Israel simultaneously.

“Unmanned aerial vehicles [UAVs] were reportedly launched by the Houthis toward Israel. The UAVs were launched in coordination with Iran,” Ambrey stated. “Israeli ports are assessed to be potential targets,” it added and warned of “collateral damage” to shipping.

Iran says its attack on Israel ‘concludes’ matter of Israeli attack on its embassy

Iran’s mission to the UN says on X that its drone and missile attack on Israel was conducted “on the strength of Article 51 of the UN Charter pertaining to legitimate defense” and in response to Israel’s April 1 attack on its embassy in Damascus, Syria.

With the attack, “The matter can be deemed concluded,” says Iran.

“However, should the Israeli regime make another mistake, Iran’s response will be considerably more severe. It is a conflict between Iran and the rogue Israeli regime, from which the U.S. MUST STAY AWAY,” it added.

Sirens and air defence interceptions in Tel Aviv

Al Jazeera’s Hamdah Salhut is reporting many “active interceptions” of incoming attacks over the skies of Tel Aviv and Al Jazeera’s cameras have captured several flashes in the night sky above the city. She also reports that air raid sirens are sounding across the country, including in Tel Aviv.

More than 100 drones intercepted outside Israeli territory: Report

Israeli army radio reports that more than 100 drones were intercepted outside Israeli territory with assistance from the US and UK.

Reuters reported separately that the US military shot down Iranian drone aircraft headed towards Israel, quoting three US officials, without disclosing how many drones were shot down or the precise locations.

Hezbollah launches ‘dozens’ of rockets at Golan Heights

The Iran-aligned Lebanese group says on its Telegram channel that it targeted the air and missile defence headquarters of the Israeli army in the “Keila barracks” in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights with dozens of Katyusha rockets.

The Israeli military has been carrying out attacks in southeast Lebanon as well in recent hours and there is escalation on the Israel-Lebanon border. ‏

Iran ‘trying to regain deterrence’: Analyst

Qatar University’s Hassan Barari has told Al Jazeera that Iran’s attack on Israel “is an escalation” but is also “calculated” and “measured”. Barari said Iran’s mission to the UN’s statement that the attack “concludes” the matter of Israel’s attack on Iran’s Damascus Embassy shows Iran “doesn’t want any further retaliation”.

“What the Iranians are trying to do is to come up with a measured, calculated attack in order to regain deterrence and not to be seen as weak in front of their own proxies,” Barari said.

On how Iran’s attack may affect Israel’s war on Gaza, Barari said that “it all depends on how the Israelis read the situation”.

"I know some right-wing politicians in the government will see this as an opportunity because the world’s attention has shifted onto Iran-Israel and then they can do something probably horrendous in Gaza.”

Iran warns Jordan over any moves to support Israel: Report

Iran’s semi-official news agency Fars, quoting a military source, reports that Iran is watching Jordan for any moves in support of Israel during Tehran’s retaliatory attacks, warning the country may become the “next target”.

“A military-informed source said [we] are closely monitoring Jordan’s movements during the punitive attacks … and if they participate in any possible action [to back Israel], they will be the next target,” Fars stated.

Top US Democrat condemns ‘unprecedented’ attack on Israel

Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader in the US House of Representatives, has voiced support for Israel. “Iran, a sworn enemy of the United States, has launched an unprecedented attack against our democratic ally, the State of Israel,” Jeffries said in a statement.

“America’s commitment to Israel’s security is ironclad and unbreakable. Iran will not succeed. We stand with the people of Israel during this moment of significant challenge.”

RAF jets deployed to intercept any airborne attacks in Middle East: UK MoD

The Ministry of Defence says British Royal Air Force jets in the Middle East “will intercept any airborne attacks within range of our existing missions, as required” after Iran targeted Israel with drones and missiles.

“In response to increased Iranian threats and the growing risk of escalation in the Middle East, the UK Government has been working with partners across the region to encourage de-escalation and prevent further attacks,” it said in a statement.

The US and UK are so ready to start WW3 :/ Doing everything for Netanyahu. If you want to de-escalate, stop supporting your dictator wannabe. The only 'de-escalation' the US and UK know is, don't hit back when we bomb you.

Hopefully nobody gets hurt and it remains a big expensive fireworks show. But still a lot more to come :(

Ballistic missile barrage concluded: Report

The Israeli newspaper Haaretz, citing the Israeli military, reports that the ballistic missile barrage launched from Iran has now concluded and that drones and cruise missiles are now expected.

Jordanian jets shoot down dozens of Iranian drones flying towards Israel: Report

Reuters, citing two “regional security sources”, reports that Jordanian jets have downed dozens of Iranian drones flying across northern and central Jordan heading to Israel. The sources said the drones were brought down in the air on the Jordanian side of the Jordan Valley and were heading in the direction of Jerusalem.

Others were intercepted close to the Iraqi-Syrian border. They gave no further details.

Israel’s air defence system has not faced attack of this magnitude before

We’ve been looking out from the balcony here across the Jerusalem skyline. And we’ve seen a succession of air defence interceptors going up from various points around the city to meet targets in the sky.

And now the police seem to be going around on the streets in their cars with an announcement going out which is telling people to go to their nearest air raid shelters as quickly as they can.

The military has been telling people that the air defence systems that Israel has – that’s the Iron Dome, David’s Sling and Arrow 2 and 3 – are very capable systems designed to deal with multiple types of threats.

It’s a layered air defence system to deal with rockets, to deal with ballistic and cruise missiles and to deal with drones as well. And that is what we’re likely to be seeing over the next few minutes and hours as these different waves of projectiles come in.

The big test of course, for this layered air defence system is, [can it] cope with an assault of this magnitude, because this is not something that Israel has faced before, on this scale.

No doubt this is Iran testing the air defense systems' limits...

Trump weighs in...

‘America supports Israel’: Trump

The former US president has hit out at Biden over the Iranian attack on Israel.

“ISRAEL IS UNDER ATTACK! This should never have been allowed to happen – This would NEVER have happened if I were President!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.


US commitment to Israel’s security remains ‘ironclad’: Biden

US President Joe Biden has said in a post on X that he has met with his national security team for an update on Iran’s attacks on Israel.

Had you reigned in your supposed 'ally' it would never have gotten this far.

Ready to go to war

Bipartisan US support pours in for Israel

US President Joe Biden as well as top legislators from both major parties have expressed “ironclad” backing of Israel.

“As Israel is under attack from Iran, we stand with Israel and its people, and the United States will do everything we can to support Israel’s defense against Iran,” Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a social media post.

Hawkish Republican Senator Tom Cotton called on Washington to “back Israel to the hilt”.

While many US lawmakers condemned the attack, none of them have mentioned the context of the escalation. Unlike many of its Arab and international allies, the US did not condemn the deadly Israeli air raid on the Iranian consulate in Damascus on April 1.

Let me guess, if this further escalates it all started on April 13th with an unprovoked terrorist attack from Iran

IRGC says any threat from US will be met with response

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards are saying that “any threat by the United States and the Zionist regime originating from any country will result in a proportional and reciprocal response from Iran towards the origin of the threat”.

This statement, carried on Iranian national television, comes hours after Iran launched dozens of ballistic missiles and drones against Israeli targets.

I don't think any of the parties in this continuously escalating Middle East situation know the definition of proportional...

Israel says Iranian attack only caused ‘minor damage’ to base

Daniel Hagari, the spokesperson for the Israeli military, has said that Iran launched more than 200 projectiles at Israel and that the “vast majority” of them have been intercepted with air defence systems and assistance from “partners”.

“A number of Iranian missiles fell inside Israeli territory, causing minor damage to a military base with no casualties. Only one little girl has been hurt, and we hope she will be well,” he said.

Hagari, however, stressed that the attack is ongoing and said the Israeli military is “operating at full force” to fend it off.

Biden ‘must demand’ de-escalation from Israel: US Muslim group

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has responded to the hostilities between Israel and Iran, saying that Americans do not support “the Israeli government’s transparent attempt to drag” their country into another “doomed and unnecessary” war in the Middle East.

“Enough is enough,” CAIR said in a statement. “The Biden administration must demand that [the] Israeli government de-escalate the ongoing crisis and stop violating international law.”

If only Biden was smart enough to see the obvious trap Netanyahu has had him walk into.

Israeli citizens don't sound all that concerned

Video shows air defense interceptions over Israeli parliament

Israel already working on escalating further. They must have had the letter ready for a while.

Israel’s UN envoy requests emergency Security Council meeting

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Now pushed to the background, Germany going back in time

Germany Arrests Jewish Activists, Shuts Down Palestine Congress, Acts Deranged

All so very worrisome...

SvennoJ said:

Who wants to bet Netanyahu is going to hit back? he's been waiting for this.  

would be nice for you to say something as meaningful now