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yanis-bnth on 29 December 2024

So maybe 3TF ?



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HoloDust on 29 December 2024
Oneeee-Chan!!!2.0 said:

By the way, the bandwidth of Switch 2 is 120GB/s, while Steam Deck is 88GB/s, Legion GO is 29.98GB/s, and ROG Ally is only 25.6GB/s.
I think this would work in Switch 2's favor at 1080p resolution.

Looking at the benchmarks, it seems that the frame rate suddenly drops when the resolution goes above 720p or 800p on these PC handhelds.

Legion Go is 120GB/s, ROG Ally is 102.4 GB/s, ROG Ally-X 120GB/s, ZOTAC ZONE is 120GB/s.



Oneeee-Chan!!!2.0 on 29 December 2024

Is it true?
I am sorry if I am wrong.
I was using TechPowerUP's GPU database as a reference, but I must have missed something.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ryzen-z1-extreme-gpu.c4157



Pemalite on 29 December 2024
Oneeee-Chan!!!2.0 said:

By the way, the bandwidth of Switch 2 is 120GB/s, while Steam Deck is 88GB/s, Legion GO is 29.98GB/s, and ROG Ally is only 25.6GB/s.
I think this would work in Switch 2's favor at 1080p resolution.

Looking at the benchmarks, it seems that the frame rate suddenly drops when the resolution goes above 720p or 800p on these PC handhelds.

Almost everything you said was wrong.

1) We don't know the memory bandwidth of the Switch 2. It hasn't been unveiled.

2) Steamdeck is 88GB/s, but also has a 102GB/s variant, it's ideal resolution is about 720P.

3) Legion Go is -not- 29.98GB/s of bandwidth. It's 120GB/s or there-abouts.

4) Rog Ally is -not- 25.6GB/s of bandwidth. It's 102.4GB/s.

Z1 Extreme supported memory/bandwidths:

DDR5-4800
DDR5-5600
LPDDR5-6400
LPDDR5X-7500		 76.8 GB/s
89.6 GB/s
102.4 GB/s
120.0 GB/s



The reason why the framerates drops when resolution increases is because they are fillrate limited, fillrate needs lots of bandwidth.
These devices are ideal for 720P/800P resolutions for modern titles that are pushing a ton of effects.

Remember the Playstation 4 had 8GB GDDR5 with 176GB/s of bandwidth and couldn't guarantee 1080P... And that console wasn't pushing Ray Tracing or other modern effects.

yanis-bnth said:

So maybe 3TF ?

Teraflops is a useless metric and doesn't tell us anything about it's gaming performance.

Oneeee-Chan!!!2.0 said:

Is it true?
I am sorry if I am wrong.
I was using TechPowerUP's GPU database as a reference, but I must have missed something.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ryzen-z1-extreme-gpu.c4157

TechPowerUP's GPU database is accurate up to a point... However it's only representing a 64bit memory bus, these devices aren't using a 64bit memory bus.
This is why it's important to have things in context.

Grabbing random numbers and running with it has always been an opportunity to get things wrong.



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160rmf on 29 December 2024
Oneeee-Chan!!!2.0 said:

Why did you change your thread vote ?

I think it was a good indicator of what people were thinking back then.

I am stupid. I printed the poll results, but I forgot to post and now I lost the image.

But i remember that most of the votes were between PS4 and PS4pro, below that Xbox Series S then a really small percentage going to PS5 and Xbox Series X. Xbox One and Xbox One X were basically ignored.



 

 

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Xxain on 29 December 2024

What do we compare the Switch to?



160rmf on 31 December 2024
Xxain said:

What do we compare the Switch to?

Do you mean the PC configuration with the closest performance?



 

 

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OdinHades on 31 December 2024

As a kid who grew up in the 90s, my only question is how many bits will it have?

Seriously though, I expect it to be in the ballpark of the Steam Deck, just in a smaller form factor. I don't see Nintendo releasing something as ginourmous as a Legion Go, as much as I love that thing as a desktop replacement. You just can't call it really mobile anymore.



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killer7 on 31 December 2024

Handheld: PS4- PS4Pro
Dock: PS4Pro/XboxOneX- XboxSS



sc94597 on 31 December 2024
sc94597 said:

DOCKED: I'd expect it to perform roughly on-par with the low-end Nvidia Ampere laptop dGPU's. So basically RTX 2050/RTX 3050 4GB 30W level. I think it will age better than them though, due to having more VRAM (at least 6 GB of useable video memory versus 4GB.)  I think it will do this at the lower power profile because I expect Nvidia to go with a die-shrink (TSMC 4nm.) 

So that puts it a half-tier (GPU-wise) below the Series S, and in some applications (ray-tracing workloads) it should have a better showing than the Series S. DLSS might be able to get it close as well. 

UNDOCKED: Roughly Steam Deck/PS4 level, again with a better feature-set. 

Sticking with this prediction I made in 2023 (although it seems, given the common theme of the "leaks"/rumors, I underestimated how much unified memory it would have.) 

And as I've said before, this puts it in the middle of the range for current gaming handhelds. That's what you would expect for a console, to be in the middle of the road for its form-factor.